Information for new board members

Committee Meeting 2019-06-13 (2019-06-14 in Australia)

The meeting will take place at 20:00 UTC in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee Members: Committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.


  1. Minutes author prepares the minutes from the last meeting

  2. Minutes author prepares the actions from meeting and actions overview. All action owners to update.

  3. Minutes author puts motion m2018MMDD.1 to accept the minutes from the last meeting.


  1. Preliminaries
    1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
    2. Who is making minutes?
    3. Is there a timelimit? Who is time keeper?
    4. Accept the minutes from the last meeting

    5. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

      1. There is a mail from critical team on the board public list.
      2. Are there important tasks to discuss today?
    6. Chair points actions from last meeting to the meeting, and asks for discussion.

    Election pledge: The outgoing committee has initiated various measures to get the finances under control. In addition, it intends to bring CAcert to Europe in 2019 (preparations are underway to do it with no need to change policies). This means that there will be an SGM in the first half of 2019 anyway. Then it could be decided: - relocate and continue - or wind up. By then it should have become apparent whether we have got the finances under control. For possibilities, see:

    Secretary's pledge: "(if) each board member is willing to do about 10% more during this transition period (he has) time to prepare statutes (for Switzerland) and (prepare the) SGM."

    Acceptance of Businesses 48 Hours before beginning of Committee Meeting latest!

  2. Business
    1. Association
      1. -
    2. Community
      1. Wiki notifications (ongoing, waiting for answer from wiki admin)
      2. Information about volunteers and funds (waiting for ruling)
    3. Future
      1. Grants: open and new inquiries (BDMC)
        1. Linux Australia (BDMC)
        2. open and new inquiries we have now for month 46 ideas. Each of us has to take one per month to apply, as having the ideas only in the wiki will never bring some funds. (updates from Brian, Frédéric, Frédéric, Etienne, Peter, Peter, Ross)

      2. Formal documented plan for our future (needed by both CAcert and people giving us money) (Brian, Peter M)

      3. Board 2019/20
      4. Personnel/volunteers
        1. SGM/AGM 2019
        2. critical team (main topic)

        3. overview ABC (who has, who should have, how many available)
    4. Finances
      1. Westpac (Peter M, Dirk; update)
      2. Membership fees 2018 (and before) (Frédéric G, update)
    5. Software
      1. Bug 1305: New root (update) (update by Ted)

      2. Root Certificate Class 3 (end of life) (update by Brian)

      3. Bug 1260 (and sub bugs 144x): PHP/Software (update Brian, GuKK, Peter M)

      4. other (new/pressing/...)
    6. Dummy project (update by Alex, FD)

    7. Business added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Business One" by Title of Business and add your Name

      • Additional Inputs Comment: Replace "Additional Inputs"by Description of Business, Description of Reason-Why/Purpose, Additional Comments, Additional Documents, Additional Links, if useful for other Committee Members to prepare for Committee Meeting.

    8. et cetera

    Questions from Community Members can be added until beginning of Committee Meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added Question here

  3. Question Time
    1. Question One added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by Your Question and add your Name

      • et cetera
  4. Closing
    1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting (Wed/Thu 20 GMT = 21 FR/CH = 15 NY = Thu/Fri 07 AEST)
    2. Agree on dates for the next meeting
      • 13 June 2019
      • 04 July 2019
    3. Chair closes the Committee Meeting

Possible dates for meetings:


Logfile from meeting 2019-06-13


Minutes will be written once the meeting is finished, with tasks listed in action items and Actions of this document.

Present: bdmc, Etienne, Frédéric D, Peter M, Frédéric G

Apologies: Ross,


Guests: ~GuKKDevel, ~GuKKDevel_log, @ChanServ, decay, dops, egal, enyc, nb, nemunaire, Skeeper, ynazarov, zerkalo


At 22:07 the President opens the session. The agenda is up to date. No additions from Board Public or Board Private are necessary. The minutes of the last meeting were approved.


Regarding the wiki notification we are waiting for an answer from the wiki administrator. Since he is sick in bed at the moment, the business is delayed by a few days. The secretary will inform you as soon as possible.

We need more volunteers. A letter has been sent to everyone. We are waiting for an arbitrator. The case already has a case manager. The president is an arbitrator at a conference and will address him.

The AGM is planned for November. After the time change the times are not quite so unfavourable anymore. The secretary has already started planning.

The president would like to discuss on Google Drive some details of the strategy. The participation is moderate. The secretary suggests that Brian or Peter summarise the two texts and submit them to the vote next time. Brian wants to do it.

The following resignations are known in the board: Peter M. The treasurer does not answer the corresponding question. We have to start searching soon.

The main topic is the Critical Team. We need new members and we need them fast. People need an ABC. We want to go two ways: 1. consider all people with ABC and 2. find an arbitrator that can do ABC quickly. Etienne will go through Arbitration's decisions and make a list. Who talks to Lambert, AlexUK and Nick remains unclear.

Finances: Finally we have access to the account in Australia again. The cashier announces the two account balances. Together with Paypla the assets amount to about 3500€. There is further income after the big mailing (we wait for arbitration). Frédéric D. is looking for sponsors. Small donations arrive. See Etienne is preparing a campaign in Switzerland.

CAcert for Dummies has been on the ice lately. When sending out the membership fees, the cashier adjusts the texts in English as he sees fit and then translates them into German using Google. The results were incomprehensible. We state: We continue to use our humane language skills for translations. Otherwise we write English.

Question Time


We aggreed last meeting on 2019-07-04-20:00 UTC for the next meeting.

Chair closed the meeting at 21:21 UTC

Our tasks:








prepare Agenda and Minutes for the next meeting

Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-06-13 (last edited 2019-07-04 20:08:52 by EtienneRuedin)