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Collection of the suggestion of the community (or at least from the board-mailing list with 181 subscribers; supplemented by consecutive numbering):

What was done

This table does not include grant solicitation activities.

When

Where

What

Language

Impressions/Result

Who

2018-02 - ongoing

Mail

Thanksgiving for donations

EN, DE

FGr

2018-03-31 - 04-02

Blog

About Funding

EN, DE, FR

ERu

2018-04-01 - 04-02

Twitter

Donate a chocolate bunny

EN, DE

> 1333

ERu

2018-12

Partnership

bewelcome.org (Upgrade Account with Assurance Identity Verification)

multi

no

ERu

2019-01

Press

Article submitted Bildung Schweiz

DE

ERu

2019-01

Press

Letter to the editor Neue Zürcher Zeitung

DE

BMc

2019-01

Twitter

Book four youth (all earnings for CAcert)

DE

ERu

2019-05

Mail

Call for annual membership dues

EN, DE

Blog entry

FGr

2019-06

Press

Letter to the editor Neue Zürcher Zeitung

DE

printed

ERu + BMc

2019-08-10

Web

See #12 - Mail campaign - Waiting for approval by moderator

DE/FR/IT*/EN/ES/RU/CH/...

...

ERu

2019-08-16

Web

See #39 - seniorweb.ch - 1. Asked the maintainer how to contact specific editor / (to be followed 2. Contact Levato - Article about CAcert/Phishing&Help)

DE

...

ERu

Adopted Ideas

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When

Where

Idea Number

What

Language

Impressions

Who

some date

E-Mail

99

Something

All Indian languages

Some thoughts

Me

2018-09-26

Telephone and E-Mail

01-07bis.2

Foundation Free

FR

Not interested, Foundation Free prioritize projects supporting poorer people

FDu

2019-01-01

E-mail

01-07bis.1

Linux Australia Grants

EN

They have requested that we provide a clear Strategic Plan to support our grant request.

BMc

2019-02-07

LinkedIn and E-mail

04

Core infrastructure Innitiative

EN

Sleeping organisation, no answers from members contacted directly; additional contacts opened with Let's Encrypt

FDu

2019-06-20

Telephone and E-Mail

01-07bis.3

Social Tech Trust

EN

Not interested, not available outside UK

FDu

2019-06-20

Online web submission

24

Comcast Innovation Fund

EN

Grant application submitted end of June, 2019

FDu

2019-06-26

E-Mail

03

Renewable Freedom Foundation

EN

RFF might open the doors of the Ford Foundation to us

FDu

2019-07-22

LinkedIn and E-mail

25-33bis.1

Linux Foundation

EN

Work in progress

FDu + BMc

2019-07-29

E-Mail

25

Stiftung erneuerbare Freiheit

DE

... Please note that positions 03 and 25 are duplicates -- Frédéric Dumas 2019-08-02 06:12:01

ERu

2019-07-30

Web

44

Miteinander das Internet sicherer machen including promo tweet

DE

...

ERu

2019-08-02

Web

28

NumFOCUS

EN

Small development grants (~3K.USD) are only available for affiliated projects ; obligation to serve a scientific interest and to apply a gender friendly code of conduct ; NumFocus charges for the financial handling of the subsidies collected through it.

FDu

2019-08-10

Web

47

Fundraiso

DE

For about 600$, we would get about 20 very good addresses where we could ask for money. No further pursuit.

ERu

2019-08-20

Web

05

Core Infrastructure Fund

EN

Development grants (~5K.USD and above); Supported by the US Congress. Applicant can be located ouside the US. Concept note submitted on 2019-08-31

FDu

Ideas to do

01-07 Grants

In the last meeting of the committee, the treasurer asked for ideas to get more money, as (01) membership fees and current (02) donations do not cover the hosting costs (and collect them on both, board-list and board-private-list.

That is was I found just yesterday. It is more for a concrete project (f.eg. replicate the keygen-tag), not really to cover hosting costs. We can try to get some funding:

Any other ideas? Any experiance with one of this organisation? Any contact to one of this organisation?

Best regards Etienne

we should propagate more our donations we have: so to inform users, we have a point with booking.com and each member should try to use this bookingsystem we get clicks paid from google, but must of us use to use an adblocker or more. so to switch it off on cacert-pages. (GuKKDevel)

08-10 Money for CAcert

Again (but another e-mail as that just before!): In the last meeting of the committee, the treasurer asked for ideas to get more money, as membership fees and current donations do not cover the hosting costs (and collect them on both, board-list and board-private-list.

Any other ideas?

Best regards Etienne

Alex:

11 Crowd funding

(11) I contacted someone who has substantial experience in crowd funding. The summary of that conversation is that there are a number of very useful crowd funding platforms (eg gofundme and kickstarter), but the engine of all successful campaigns is social media. As a person with no genuine exposure to social media I will have to pass that over to those that do. My acquaintance thought that an appeal from CAcert would generate interest, but needed a significant social media following to get it started. Perhaps an appeal to the community to put the campaign out to social media might work?

Regards, Peter

12 Campaign

(12)

Channels

cacert@-lists, twitterCAcert, XING, facebook?, our own blog ...

Message

Proposal for a mailtext to cacert@lco could be translated to xx for cacert-xx@lco: (GuKKDevel)


Dear CAcert community member,

we are proud in beeing a nonprofit Organisation and to provide you all with a certificate at no charge, we believe in beeing saver than any other certification authority as we have a big web-of-trust in background.

Though we do not pay the people who do all the work, and it is much work for so few people who there are providing us, we have to pay money for the equipment we need to hold available for instance a server, also we have to pay for the data traffic we produce as each mail produces costs.

Until now we had some income from Google AdSense, provisions from booking.com, and last but not least the membership fees of the members from CAcert INC..

But as we get less money from our provisions we want you to inform about some sponsoring links and plead with you to use those links as often as you can.

hope we did not startle you, but we are running out of money in a short period, and would have to shut CAcert down.


omit question mark and reverse write "membership fees from member of CAcert Inc. and also provisions from partners like booking. com" - not quite correct, the other is advertising revenue. Is that somehow possible in a half-sentence like "advertisments and provsisions" without naming a partner? Or rather the three Call advertising partners? Otherwise booking.com is better placed and there there is only revenue from using the right affiliate tag (aid=).

"running out of money" is probably important. I would rather not write "in a short period" and "would have to shut CAcert down" I would rather leave out, even if it is the consequence of course and maybe "hard words" are also important. (PR Of)

questionmarks were meant as placeholders to fill in the correct names of and links to sponsors, donators or other incomes I don't know the correct names and kinds of

By this we should name our affiliate partners more prominent on our first Page and not on a page you have to search for.

I thought this consequence should be made really clear to all community members, as all of them are affected by this

But we should also give statement about the difference to letsencrypt (the other free of charge CA) and our advantage thereby/packed (GuKKDevel)

Wording

(and illustration! see Twitter&Blog)

Localisation

English, German, other languages: makes it sense?

ask translation-group.

How many subscribers do we have at

cacert@lists.cacert.org

english (en)

748

**

d

i

cacert-br@lists.cacert.org

portugese (pt_br)

13

waiting for review of translation

cacert-de@lists.cacert.org

german (de)

360

**

d

i

cacert-es@lists.cacert.org

spanish (es)

65

*

d

12-08-2019 (expanded text)

cacert-fr@lists.cacert.org

french (fr)

58

*

d

i

10-08-2019

cacert-it@lists.cacert.org

italian (it)

15

d

posted 10-08-2019, waiting for moderator

cacert-ro@lists.cacert.org

romanian (ro)

1

waiting for review of translation

cacert-ru@lists.cacert.org

russian (ru)

6

12-08-2019 (expanded text)

cacert-uk@lists.cacert.org

english (uk)

37

**

d

i

posted 10-08-2019

cacert-anz@lists.cacert.org

english (au)

23

**

d

i

posted 10-08-2019

Regional lists from Germany

aachen@lists.cacert.org

german (de)

13

**

d

i

posted 10-08-2019, waiting for moderator

ca4d2@lists.cacert.org

german (de)

37

**

d

i

posted 10-08-2019, waiting for moderator

de-berlin@lists.cacert.org

german (de)

18

**

d

i

10-08-2019

de-dbag@lists.cacert.org

german (de)

5

**

d

i

posting not possible

north-de@lists.cacert.org

german (de)

33

**

d

i

posted 10-08-2019, waiting for moderator

* main CAcert languages
d available on deepl.com ("the world’s best machine translation"), also (pl) and (nl)
i inhouse translators available, also (cz)

Sender

President? Treasurer?

Collecting points

13 Stay in contact

(13) Treasurer should send a thank-you-mail to each donator in 2-4 days. He should name the donator, say thank you and give a short overview for what the money is used. If possible in the main languages (english, german, any more?) (E.R.)

(13a) There could also be a list of donators in Wiki or on Main-site (GuKKDevel)

14 Gifts

(14) Donors can get a gift that someone is donating. For example: The first three donors starting next Monday will receive an image/original photograph/... from xyz. Or: Among all donors of the month April we raffle 1 xyz coffee machine, 1 xyz software license and 3 10$-xyz-store value cards. (E.R.)

15 Licence fees

(15) As we know, not only CAcert is affected by Bug 1417. Some of our people are working with high pressure on a solution. If it works, we may be able to license the solution non-exclusively to other affected CAs. I am thinking here of royalties (money) or a non-monetary gift (cross-signature of the root certificate). (E.R.)

16 Blog

(16) My idea was to "pin" the first blog-entry to donation ... otherwise it will scroll out as soon as there are more blog-entries. (egal) Note 2019: done as soon as proposed -- Frédéric Dumas 2019-09-01 08:25:38

17 Mailings from and to Brian

Since there are quite a few on this list who have either performed
CAcert Assurances or had one performed for themselves, I thought that I
would ask where the wind was blowing these days.  I might ramble, so
please bear with me.



For the people who aren't aware, I will quote from the website:
cacert.org:

=====

CAcert.org is a community-driven Certificate Authority that issues
certificates to the public at large for free.

CAcert's goal is to promote awareness and education on computer security
through the use of encryption, specifically by providing cryptographic
certificates. These certificates can be used to digitally sign and
encrypt email, authenticate and authorize users connecting to websites
and secure data transmission over the internet. Any application that
supports the Secure Socket Layer Protocol (SSL or TLS) can make use of
certificates signed by CAcert, as can any application that uses X.509
certificates, e.g. for encryption or code signing and document
signatures.

=====

There are effectively two levels of membership in CAcert.  The first is
membership in the Community, which gives you the ability to create and
use X.509 certificates issued by CAcert on your behalf.  Beyond that,
Community Members may voluntarily assist with donations of money, time
or goods, because there is always work to be done and expenses to be
paid.   For instance, all Community Members are automatically members of
the Policy Committee, and may participate in discussions and votes on
the Policies of CAcert, as they choose.

The second level of membership is that of Membership in CAcert, Inc.,
the non-profit organization that manages the assets and operations of
CAcert, and was formed fifteen years ago.  Membership involves an
application and a nominal annual fee, and allows voting in the Annual
General Meeting and other such meetings.  That membership also allows
membership in the Board of Directors.


OK, now that I have discussed some history and background, I want to ask
my question, for both the people who have participated or are currently
participating in CAcert in some way, and for those who have not.

Considering that there are services such as Let's Encrypt, which offers
an X.509 Certificate for "free" to anyone, for a short, renwable,
period, is CAcert's Web of Trust, Community and independence from
commercial Certificate Authorities such as Verisign, still attractive to
the TriLUG community and the world at large?


I look forward to a lively discussion, as we frequently have here.

SSL has two primary, orthogonal functions:
1) Keep outsiders from listening in on our conversation
2) Assure one or both of us that the other is who they claim to be

Certificates are most important in part (2), though common SSL setups require a certificate to exist even to do part (1).  Let's Encrypt facilitates part (1), but by offering "an X.509 Certificate for 'free' to anyone," does little or nothing to uphold part (2).  CACert's value is in being a noncommercial broker of part (2).

18 Funding by the EU

<ste80pa> hello
<ste80pa> there is this opportunity in EU funding
https://ec.europa.eu/inea/en/connecting-europe-facility/cef-telecom/apply-funding/2018-eid)--

--(The 2018 CEF Telecom eIdentification & eSignature call makes an indicative €8 million of funding available for proposals in this area.
Call deadline: 15 May

Note 2019: I attended to the "CEF Info Day" in 2018 and 2019: https://ec.europa.eu/inea/en/connecting-europe-facility/cef-telecom/apply-funding/2019-eid

Participation to the programm requires to form a consortium of at least 3 entities, located in 3 different EU countries, in order to apply. The program is not open to a non-profit organisation bidding alone. Such kind of grant application looks like being beyond the capabilities of CAcert at the present time. -- Frédéric Dumas 2019-07-22 15:18:18

19 Funding by ISIF Asia 2018 Grants and Awards

https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board/2018-04/msg00004.html)--
--(Call deadline: 30 April 2018

20 Wall Calendar

A print on demand wall calendar with photos (beautiful sceneries) from around the world. Each member of the committee and team members send one picture. (f.eg. a riverside near support ingeneer's home, view from the hill behind secretary's home, counrtyside from vice president's holiday, ... Printed on demand (no risk for CAcert Inc.), printing costs ca. 6.-, sold for 16.-, benefit 10.- each.

21 spreadshirt.de

Promote our https://shop.spreadshirt.de/cacertshop/

22-36 more funds and grants

22-23 Next year (2019)

allready closed --ER; Note 2019: the 2019 innitiative was not renewed by Facebook in 2019 -- Frédéric Dumas 2019-09-01 08:25:38

24 general internet / foss grants

25-33 to check

34-36 more possibilities

37-45 Volunteers and participants

Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas (last edited 2019-09-01 08:25:38 by Frédéric Dumas)