Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2012-05-22


The MiniTOP will be held via telco 22:00 CEST

Attendees: Michael, Magu, Dirk, Marcus


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Action items from last meeting Meeting Action Items


Development, Deployment, Discussion

  • OAO, Ted

    bug #943 change OA admin/assurer text

    needs 2nd test -> Fabian, Marc, Alex? {g} / needs 2nd review -> Ted, rejected


    uli, Ted

    bug #824 Org User cert fix Case study

    Organisation User Certificates: Need UI improvement for proper production usage


    uli, ted

    bug #823 email address removal fix

    No warning when removing e-mail address from account that certificates will be revoked
    checked by 4, needs 2nd review, deploy



    bug #920 Join - single name only (eg Indonesian)

    details under bug number



    bug #859 admin console interface

    feature request: show activity on an account in the admin interface
    rejected, certs login doesn't modify "modified" field



    bug #540

    p20111113 CPS #7.1.2 "Certificate Extensions" adjustments - testing
    uli, marcus: needs full cert create tests
    duplicate report to bug#978
    tested by 3, 2nd review done, transfered
    Ken reported: still has problems, bug kept open


    gagern, NEO

    bug #440 Problem with subjectAltName (CSR, renew certs)

    There seems to be a problem with the subjectAltName. Dupes, missing entries, and more, rejected, needs further development



    bug #1025 Domain Dispute issue

    disputes rc and rc2 var prob
    needs work



    bug #1054 0001054: Review the code regarding the new point calculation

    Thawte patch part II
    needs further work


Software Assessors: Review 1 / add to cacert-devel, add to testserver

  • Software-Assessors task


  • Testers task


    bug #1004 Stats page improvement

    tested by 2, needs 2nd review



    Bugs #1159 it might be possible to execute commands on the signing server



    bug #1065 Wrong wording when sending mails during the assurance process



    bug #1162 calcutate (the passwords) hash in php instead of in mysql

    create test scenarios for the software testers /!\
    Full testing /!\



    bug #0028 Wrong language for you've been assured & [CAcert.org] Client Certificate emails



    bug #988 TTP cap form deployment


Software Assessors: 2nd Review, Bundle Package to Critical Team

  • Software-Assessors task


    bug #500 Get contact mail adress after resolving test

    tested by 3, requires review



    bug #1140 Show if a test is passed in learnprogress

    tested by 3, requires review



    bug #1131 Rename _all_ Policies from .php to .html and fix all links

    global policy directory maintenance and update



    bug #1010 Reorder the view on organisation certificates

    tested by 3


Software Assessors: Bundle Package to Critical Team

  • Software-Assessors task


    bug #1139 Add new fields to the database

    tests through #500 and #1140, 2nd review done, requires transfer


Awaiting Response from Critical Team

  • inopiae

    bug #411 Wrong text is made into link



1. Preface

  1. dirk topics
    1. Cebit brainstorming
      • dirk: request for events report
      • (2012-03-27) Marcus awaiting translation from Marc
      • (2012-04-03) Marcus will do upcoming (easter) weekend
      • (2012-04-17) no update
      • (2012-04-24) no update
  2. dispute cases
    • new bug: bug #1038 Provide a script for board/tverify reset flags by arbitration a20110118.1

    • re bug #1003 Permissions review script, to incorporate new intermediate ruling

2. Software-Assessment

  1. Software-Assessors candidates
    • Problem:
      • 2nd review of 4 patches cannot be reviewed by NEO, dirk is busy, so only Ted avail, Markus inactive
    • candidate to contact by ...
      • kotek? (-> neo) - neo is doing reviewing

      • aphexer? (-> ?)

      • bjoern? (-> magu) - what attracts programming for CAcert?

      • willm (-> neo) (xing contact, developer), will contact next

      • stephan (-> marcus)

    • reactivte PG?
    • how we get SA attractive?
      • Marcus: blockers? eg. dpa
      • dirk: newsletters, last one last year
        • 2nd one should be 3 months later about security settings, now its about 5-6 months later
      • open dpa discussion (uli: added to next board meeting agenda), not yet continued

3. bug #1023 Testing (6.php)

  1. Thawte points removal, final step
    • relates to 6.php
    • this also relates to TTP
    • dirk will work on this last weekend (2012-01-21)
    • current state: not yet finished
      • expected finishing? upcoming weekend (2012-01-23 to 2012-01-30)
      • not finished, upcoming weekend 2012-02-06?
      • not finished, last weekend 2012-03-12?
      • 2012-03-13: new bug#1023 bug#1023

      • transfered to git cacert
      • to test:
        • assure someone
        • w/ and w/o ttp
        • in all variations
      • Added to testserver Tue 13.3., Wed 14.3.


      bug #1023 Consolidate changes into the Assure Someone page

      6.php global re-design project
      assurance, wot area (Thawte points removal effective)


    • current state: patch removed from testserver, needs work (DEV)
    • (2012-03-27) back on testserver: bug #1023 (6.php), has a bug, needs work
    • 2 new bugs within meeting 2012-03-27
    • (2012-04-03) bugs analyze, empty results analyse, new patch transfered to testserver
    • current state 2012-04-17
      •   * dirk: didn't we concluded 14 days ago, that the current patch state is the revision similar on the production system
          * potential bugs on production system can be identified against wot.php on testserver (-> diff wot.php, if no difference bugs are also in production system)
          * Michael: diff is empty, this means wot.php is identical between production and testserver
          * Michael: didn't pushed one patch, as it has at least one error
          * Michael: fix and push to git / testserver, patch is transfered to testserver
          * testing: failures occured
          * last time we've added method transfer
           * if board=1, method empty -> results in garbage in database
          * new bug, that methods aren't checked that needs to be checked [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1032|bug#1032]]
          * req by Marcus to add maxpoints limit definition: 35 assurance points (by AP) in a f2f meeting, upto 50 assurance points possible though a subpolicy (currently none available), new bug [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1033|bug#1033]]
    • #1033 passed to production
    • 2012-04-24: 2nd review by neo bug #1023 (6.php) (next time)

    • 2012-05-05: dirk_: @neo ... is the review of 6.php done? / NEOatNHNG: almost

4. testing of certs patches

  1. bug#440 Problem with subjectAltName (CSR, renew certs)

    • "There seems to be a problem with the subjectAltName. Dupes, missing entries, and more"
    • patch by gagern
    • Software-Assessors: needs 1st review + transfer to testserver (week 4)
    • (2012-01-23) michael picked up
    • Whats about bug#440 vs. bug#540 ?

  2. bug #812 CAcert certificate not working with Windows Encrypting Filesystem (EFS)

  3. bug #905 Unable to sign PDF file with Acrobat

5. 2nd review of about 7 patches

6. continue BlackJack coding by Michael

  1. bug#964, bug#918 (Part II) Codename "BlackJack" - VBscript for Vista/Win7 (select keysize >= 1024)

    • x1 Dirk, new bug#964
      DEV: bug#918 (Part II) (a20110312.1) Weak keys: /pages/account/.. 4.php, 17.php to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) DEV

      current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver
      Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed
      some references added to bug#964


    • as part of
    • x1 Arbitration case a20110312.1 Weak keys bug #918 / bug #954 / bug#964

    • Current state:
      • {g}

        pre mailing sent


        keys revocation script to bulk revoke weak keys, new bug #954, finished


        dirk: DEV: a20110312.1 bug#918 Weak keys: /pages/account/.. 4.php, 17.php to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) DEV
        vbscript needs to be improved with select box key size and lower limit to 2048 (based on https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:MD5and1024)
        Api CertEnroll (MS crypto provider)
        new bug#964
        current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver
        Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed
        some references added to bug#964 - codename "BlackJack"


        Weak keys blog post, published


        Weak keys article published by Hanno(July 28), link is in CAcert's blog post (July 30)


        weak keys: problems with cryptostick (to test at Froscon with Juergen ?)

    • cert enroll infos under bug#964

    • vista and win7 works with other engine !CryptoAPI (?) => Cryptography API: Next Generation

    • dirk: has not started the virtual machine
    • Question from Marcus: did someone contacted illuminat?
      • No, Marcus: to contact illuminat
      • illuminat will give it a try, first needs download of testserver image
    • Update?
      • marcus: illuminat not yet seen last time
      • baseline requirement - keyssize >= 2048 to fix till end of 2011

      • how to proceed?
      • dirk: 1st step, to bring win test server localy online
      • marcus: to contact illuminat
      • Do we have other developers who may pick up this project?
    • Marcus -> dirk: announcement of vbscript bug to developers mailing list

      • change keysize
      • merge 2 scripts to one
      • fix on script 1 needs fix in 2nd script too, solutions: include, one file, or comment fix script 2 too
    • interrupt: bug#964 -> codename "BlackJack"

      • relates to IE8 problem, that certs cannot be created
      • is there a security issue with available fix? also bug#918

      • related 927, 901, 847
      • a patch is online on testserver, but cannot found
      • related patch files, /pages/account/ 3,4,16,17; /include/account.php
      • there are other vbscript pages: ../account/ 6 + 19
    • Brian bug#964

      • Michael: Marcus to test with IE
      • IE select provider only
    • code from Brian needs some corrections, corrections to do, 4 + 17 inclusions, checkin
      • notification to Brian, done
      • quickfix has problems too
      • next step(s)
        • check error codes / debug routines
        • open developer mode, create cert
          • resulting error: line 213, put length, wrong parameter
            Zeile: 213
            Fehler: CertEnroll::CX509PrivateKey::put_Length: Falscher Parameter. 0x80070057 (WIN32: 87)
            Zeile 213:  objPrivateKey.Length = &h08000000
    • current state: an undef error with current patch
      • we need someone who has experience with vbscript, to come into telco, reviews interface/api beforehand
        • illuminat: not before eastern
        • marcus: will ask users on assurance party Wed 18th Jan
    • 2012-01-23:
      • also cabforum requirement, keysize under IE limited to 1024
      • how to find programmers ?
        • windows webserver programmers: Outlook, Citrix portals
      • new API's can use java, new apis have web-enabled
      • splitting vbscript for os revisions < vista, java for os revisions >= vista ?

    • NEO started development, not yet finished
    • next: for XP: rewrite vbscript to JavaScript

7. next meeting


  1. Preface
    1. Event planning
    2. Luxemburg event
  2. Software Assesment
    1. Markus is currently busy, no response from PG
    2. potential coder Steffen I. has no time before end of august
    3. Magu has contact with two new tester candidates found on LUG Flensburg
    4. Marcus has contact with two new tester candidates found on ATE Karlsruhe
  3. bug #1023 Testing (6.php)
    1. did some test and fixed small remaining bugs (removed dropdown for method when only assuer, new text for the date field as it is now prefilled with the actual date if started for the first time in a session)
    2. magu and marcus tested the last version, patch ready to review by dirk and deploy to production
    3. while testing on the bug we discovered a strage behavior of the WebDB and filed a dispute to this matter.
  4. testing of certs patches
    • no progress
  5. 2nd review of about patches that are ready to deploy
    • no progress
  6. continue BlackJack coding by Michael

    • no progress
  7. bug fix for contact formular (bug #1019)

    • Micheal changed the contact form when logged into the account so that is working now.
    • needs testing
  8. Permissions review and revoke of board and tverify flag (bug #1003 and bug #1038)

    • Michael run the permission preview script. After finding some formating stuff and fixing it, the script was run a second time.
    • Afterwards Michael run the script revoke of board and tverify flag. The executing report was added as private to bug #1003

    • All tester please review your flags and mails on the test server and report ONLY in bug #1003.

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