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Committee Meeting 2025-12-04 19:00 UTC

The meeting will take place at 19:00 UTC at https://meet.jit.si/cacert If you do not have audio channel, you may try in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

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1. Preliminaries
   1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting

   2. Secretary is making minutes

   3. Accept minutes from 6. Nov. 2025 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 6th of Nov 2025."

   4. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist or Threema chat or Telegram group includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

   5. Agree on the 8. Jan. 2026, 19:00 UTC as date for the next committee meeting. (Following date probably, 8. Jan. 2026, 5. Feb. 2026, 5. Mar. 2026)

2. Business

   1. OpenID Connect (Brian, Dirk, S.T.)

      1. Last steps: OIDC&moinmoin by Dirk

      2. Dirk & Stefan by Dirk

      3. Documentation: by Dirk
      4. Documentation: by Brian (Drupal and Wordpress: finished?; Server Registration: unclear; Nextcloud: will follow); communication will start this week-end.

   2. CPS (Jan's suggestion to comment on GIT; see @)

      1. Who writes to comment to PolG (Kim?)? Until when? (A. what happens with the commentd from 4.Oct? 10. Oct.? 10. Oct. bis? -- B. What happens after 10. Oct.? -- C. Whoo takes care of this until a vote is possible (push it a little bit; can it be done until the end of the year or until january?) https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-policy/2025-10/

      2. Vote? (this year?)

   3. Reactivation of M.G. (New Roots & Escrow) and S.T. (OICD) by Dirk; Peter M and Kevin D for Westpac (ny Dirk)

   4. Finances

      1. Paypal blocked again, secretary and Frédéric G. started spending time again, probably we have to ask again help from AFCA. (on behalf of the treasurer by the secretary) -- the special force resumed work at the beginning of December.

   5. Infrastructure by Dirk

      1. Project: JanDD suggests replacing the (technically inferior) infra03 with a ‘young used’ server for around €1000-1200 in a 2-server solution for infra. With significantly better performance and lower power consumption. Later (when memory/... are cheaper again), infra02 can then be replaced.

      2. "I request a cost ceiling of ... for the replacing of Infra03." or "I request a credit of ... for the replacing of Infra03." (credit does not have to be exhausted)

   6. Any other business (board members forgot to ask the secretary to put it on the agenda)

3. Question Time

   1. "Question One." added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name

4. Closing

   Questions from CAcert.org community members can be added until beginning of committee meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added question here.

1. on hold (for later this year)
   1. Infrastructure: (Dirk)

      1. Start thinking about planning when to do things about new roots, so we are prepared several years in advance, as no certs should have a end-date after any root certificates. Also take a look at the old Escrow article. https://wiki.cacert.org/Roots/EscrowAndRecovery

   2. Remote Assurance (Brian)

      1. Creation of remote assurance sub committee (RASC) on the hold until Eva is available for the policy. Secretary got in touch with Eva on Oct. 12.
         "Users Requests, summarized." added by Aleš a) need for a distant assurance (no assurers, no TTP possibility in their country); b) need for the write access to our Wiki.

1. To remember: Goals 2021/2022 (propositions by board 2020/2021) - Each goal needs a responsible person on the board who keeps an eye on it and reports regularly, keeps in touch with the responsible people. obsolete / started / waiting for available time

   • push OrgA (Guy)
   • expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)

   • delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is funded by the RIPE NCC.

   • expand background check

   • remote assurance, if accepted by the community;

   • simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)

   • software development and testing

   • New CSR software

   • support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)

2. Not to forget: Staffing the teams
   1. Applicants to the Infrastructure team
   2. Applicants to the Development team
   3. Applicant to the Critical team

1. Access to local systems for board members

1. Tasks assigned to Board Members and others

1. Software Team

   1. Issue 1502: Adapt the UI at CAcert.org to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers (Some of this will be met with 1551 ) needs review

   2. Issue 1482: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year Fix available

   3. Issue 1444: PHP - Brian needs review

   4. Issue 1417: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard solved?

2. Organisation Assurance
   1. How to relance OrgA? (Guy)
3. Grant applications

   1. Protopype Fund https://prototypefund.de/en/ (mail to SW Board only)

      1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
      2. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
      3. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.

1. Blockchain

   1. see here: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas#Blockchain (waiting for answer from IanG)

Minutes Committee meeting - 2025-11-06

Present, by alphabetical order: Aleš, Brian, Dirk, Etienne, Kim; guest: Bradley

Opening

1.1. The Committee Meeting is opened at 19:15 by Brian.

1.3. The minutes of the last meeting were accepted by five ayes. (m20251204.1).

1.4. We were told, that there are still paypal, but no other information for donations. see https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1567

1.5. The committee agrees on the 8. Jan. 2025, 19:00 UTC as date for the next committee meeting. (Following dates probably, 8. Jan. 2026, 5. Feb. 2026, 5. Mar. 2026)

Business

2.1. OpenID Connect 2.1.1. Docs Moinmoin Wiki: no progress 2.1.2. 2.1.3. Docs PHP, Python, Pearl, Wordpress with another Plugin will be done by Dirk. The fine tuning (typography) by the secretary. 2.1.4. Docs Server Registration; Nextcloud: Brian, Bradley (for the second) will do that.
Kim suggest a version for https://workspaceupdates.googleblog.com/2025/11/single-sign-on-with-custom-openid.html Kim and Brian will discuss it on 10. Dec. 2025 a the Wednesday meeting.

2.2. CPS: Aleš wrote to Grégoire. The secretary will ping him next week to thsnk you for his contributions. The goal is to finish in the following weeks and then to proceed to the vote. If he moves to Bruxelles (FOSDEM), Egl is willing to meet him there.

2.3. Egal will ping MG and meet ST until the end of 2025.

2.4. Paypal blocked again, secretary and Frédéric G. started spending time again, probably we have to ask again help from AFCA. (on behalf of the treasurer by the secretary) -- the special force resumed work at the beginning of December.

2.5. Infrastructure

JanDD suggests replacing the (technically inferior) infra03 with a ‘young used’ server for around €1000-1200 as first part in a 2-server solution for infra. With significantly better performance and lower power consumption. Later (when memory/diskspace are cheaper again), infra02 can then be replaced.
I move that Infrastructure team is assigned a credit of 1200.00 EUR for replacing Infra03.
Motion accepted with 4 ayes (Dirks abstains as he is part of the infra team).

2.6. Bradley shares his point of view.

The president closes the meeting at 20:09.

Motions

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20251204.1 (minutes nov) Accepted

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20251204.2 (credit infra 03) Accepted

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