Committee Meeting 2021-12-02

The meeting will take place at 20:00 UTC in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

During the meeting, the following two additional channels are open to all members: (LINK WILL BE ADJUSTED BEFORE THE MEETING)


  1. Preliminaries
    1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
    2. Who is making minutes? (Writing minutes in real time)

    3. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

    4. Accept minutes from 04.11.2021 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 4st November 2021."

  2. Business

    Acceptance of new business items no later than 48 hours before the start of the committee meeting!

    1. Constitution
      1. President
      2. Vice president
      3. Treasurer
      4. Secretary
      5. Sub Committees
    2. Goals 2021/2022 (propositions by board 2020/2021) - Each goal needs a responsible person on the board who keeps an eye on it and reports regularly, keeps in touch with the responsible people.
      • push OrgA (Guy)
      • expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)
      • support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)
      • expand background check
      • simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)
      • remote assurance, if accepted by the community;
      • software development and testing
      • delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is founded by the RIPE NCC.
    3. Finance team
      1. New ERP / decision / who, where, until when (Michael)
      2. Info (details here / decision about USD and AUD in PP (Michael)

      3. Board asks whether there is anything that they can do to assist the Finance Team.
    4. OpenID Connect integration / who is in charge / what is done / what will be done until end of year / Board asks whether there is anything that they can do to assist
    5. Background Check:
    6. New CSR software (Ted)
    7. Staffing the teams
      1. Applicants to the Infrastructure team
      2. Applicants to the Development team
      3. Applicant to the Critical team
    8. Access to local systems for board members



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  1. Question Time

    Questions from community members can be added until beginning of committee meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added question here.

    1. "Question One." added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name

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    2. Closing
      1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting: 6. Jan 2022
      2. Agree on the following meeting dates: 3. Feb, 3. March, 7. Apr (Maundy Thursday is on 14th), 6. Mai 2022 (keep data free, can be changed if necessary)

  1. Software Team
    1. Issue 1502: Adapt the UI at to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers

    2. Issue 1482: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year

    3. Issue 1444: PHP - Brian

    4. Issue 1417: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard

  2. Organisation Assurance
    1. How to relance OrgA? (Guy)
  3. Grant applications
    1. Protopype Fund (mail to SW Board only)

      1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
      2. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
      3. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.
  1. Blockchain
    1. see here: (waiting for answer from IanG)



Members of the Committee:

Present, by alphabetical order

Absent or silent, by alphabetical order

Members of the CAcert community and other guests

Committee meeting

Acceptance of **minutes**

1. Motion to accept minutes from 4.11.2021: <!> I propose to accept the minutes from 4.11.2021.


Brian: president, Frédéric: vice president, Michael: treasurer; Etienne: secretary, Kim, Waclaw, Sascha: members.

Remote Assurance

Brian and Michael will discuss this issue on an informal video call meeting on a Wednesday to "testing the waters". Depending of that, discussion should continue at the Policy Group. If that happens, it is proposed that all committee members join the discussion at Policy Group

Sascha remember something that Dirk said: We would have to adapt the assurance part on the website and add some flag to the database for that. Which leads to the question who is gonna change the software and who is gonna test it. Which in turn leads to the point that we have not enough programming members that have passed background check.

OpenID Connect

Sascha and Michael are willing to review. If it is needed, they have to do the background check before. We see Brian as being one of the skilled person being able to act as a project manager on the OpenID project:

  1. ongoing platform for doing finances: There was nexterp, and we need to get it deployed. Jan has to be contactet. Is there a server to install nexterp?
  2. we need to have a closer or better contact to SecureU. see below.
  3. Michael access to the GRKB account. This will be discussed between Etienne and Michael directly.


If Brian remember correctly, there was the idea that someone could join SecureU to help them with paperwork. If someone from us, preferably German-speaking, were also on the board of SecureU, cooperation would probably be much easier - just like in the past. As Etienne will have a call with Dirk from SecureU, he should discuss this topic too. Michael may know someone.

Question Time

There are more assurers asked in Ottawa, Kanada, as the two in the WoT data base.

38 in Ontario / 2 in Montréal (about 180 km) assurer in Montréal


Logfile from meeting 2021-12-02








prepare Agenda and Minutes for the next meeting

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