Committee Meeting 2020-01-09 (2020-01-10 in Australia)

The meeting will take place at 20:00 UTC in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

08:00 PM GMT = 21:00 CET = 15:00 New York EDT = 07:00 Australia AEST

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee Members: Committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.


  1. Minutes author prepares the minutes from the last meeting

  2. Minutes author prepares the actions from meeting and actions overview. All action owners to update.

  3. Minutes author puts motion m20200109.1 to accept the minutes from the last meeting.


  1. Preliminaries
    1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
    2. Who is making minutes?
    3. Is there a timelimit? Who is time keeper?
    4. Accept the minutes from the last meeting.

    5. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

    6. Chair points actions from last meeting to the meeting, and asks for discussion.

    Acceptance of Businesses 48 Hours before beginning of Committee Meeting latest!

  2. Business
    1. Critical Team
      1. Status of applications for Critical/Infrastructure team
      2. Re-classification of CRL and OSCP (DA)
        • Critical Team would like to have an adjustment, since the CRL makes up a large part of the bandwidth of CAcert (and thus of BIT): CRL and OCSP should no longer be classified as critical systems, but under the control of the Critical Team. This would allow CRL and OSCP to be moved to another (non-CAcert server) can be outsourced to significantly reduce the bandwidth. Since these are both servers that decide on the validity of certificates (revoke), not "just any" of these servers should administrate. (mail from 12.12.2019 to the secretary)
        • Discussion (motion maybe only in the february meeting)
    2. Finances
      1. Status of Finance Team (FG)
      2. Treasurer (nomination)
      3. Invoice/Rechnung 2019-2 from secure-U €1537.85 (-€1300 donations = to pay €237.85) (invocie date 31.12.2019, received 1.1.2020)
  3. Question Time

    Questions from Community Members can be added until beginning of Committee Meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added Question here

    • - no questions added -
  4. Closing
    1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting
    2. Chair closes the Committee Meeting


Logfile from meeting 2020-01-09


Present: Brian M (21:01), Etienne R., Frédéric D., Frédéric G. (20:16), Peter N. (20:36), Sascha T.

Apologies: Ross K.

Guests: decay, egal, enyc, LambertHofstra, nb, nemunaire, ynazarov, zerkalo


At 20:10 UTC we decided to start as quorum had been reached. Sascha declared taking minutes.

The minutes of last meeting on 2019-12-23 were accepted by motion m20200109.1.

Etienne explained his mail over board private list regarding issues with PayPal who blocked our account completely and refuse to accept our submitted documents. Etienne and Frédéric G. work together on resolving this.


Starting with Finance, Frédéric G. reports:

The plan Brian and Frédéric suggest is to welcome Christophe and Bret, provide the materials to Christophe and give him the Treasurer official rank, with Bret as support and Frédéric to help with all he knows from the history and know-how he got along last years. We support this plan. Frédéric will ask Christophe to join next board meeting and appoint him for Treasurer and lead of financial team.

We received invoice 2019-2 from secure-U, less donations it is 237.85 EUR. We moved to pay it with motion m20200109.2.

Continuing with Critical Team, as Dirk A. has not arrived yet, we cannot discuss status of applications.

Next is the request of critical to outsource the CRL and OSCP services because of high bandwidth. We want to have more information about this from Dirk before we can decide. Frédéric D. will try to have a meeting with Dirk before next board meeting.

Question Time

Frédéric D. asks if a new grant application at Comcast might be promising. Last application which was rejected was partly about housekeeping of existing code. We assume that this did not arouse interest – a focus on building some sort of integration into ACME Certbot or MailEnvelope or Nextcloud could be much more attractive.


For the coming months we want to modify the schedule to "every second Thursday of each month", and agreed on 2020-02-13-20:00 UTC for the next meeting.

Etienne closed the meeting at 22:33 UTC.








Prepare agenda and minutes for next meeting



Resolve PayPal account blocking

Frédéric G.


Invite Christophe M. for Treasurer appointment

Frédéric D.


Schedule a video call with Dirk A.