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Committee Meeting 2022-11-03 18:00 UTC

The meeting will take place at 18:00 UTC in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network.

Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.

Agenda

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1. Preliminaries
   1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
      1. Chair has a question for the attending members
   2. Who is making minutes?

   3. Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.

   4. Accept minutes from 6. Oct 2022 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 4th of October 2022."

2. Business

   Acceptance of new business items no later than 48 hours before the start of the committee meeting!

   1. Quick decisions

      1. Maybe* "I move to accept the background check for Gero T." (*the BGC is done, decision can be taken if it arrives before the meeting, if not, decision to be taken on a later meeting)

   2. Quick infos
   3. Transition
      1. What we will suggest the new committee to continue.
      2. What we will suggest the new committee to finish.
      3. What we will suggest the new committee to start as we did not have enough time or man power.
   4. Review 2021/2022
      1. Review of our goals (see on the bottom of this page): done? transfer to 22/23? remove? missing?

   5. Finance team (Michael)

      1. New ERP: Info: State of affairs

      2. EUR bank account IBAN CH72 0077 4010 3947 4420 1

      3. Brian: Information from Dirk re: Secure-U

   6. OpenID Connect (Brian) State of affairs

   7. Future of secureU e.V. (Information)

      1. Frédéric and Dirk startet some paperwork; Mark O and Etienne R are waiting until this is done.

      2. Secretary got ....

   8. Background Check (Ted)

      1. BGC for Gero: Interview happend (by Ted&Etienne), committee is waiting for the report (has to be sent by Gero).

      2. BGC for Kim: Date is in confirmation phase (by Ted&Etienne)

      3. BGC for Peter is initiated. (date searching; Interview by Ted&Egal)

      4. BGC for Matthias and Sascha are initiated. (date searching started in August)

   9. Events

   10. Remote Assurance (Brian)

       1. Creation of remote assurance sub committee (RASC) on the hold until Eva is available for the policy.

   11. Annual General Meeting (Saturday, 12.Nov.2022, 20:00 UTC)
       1. State of Nominations?

       2. Finish Reports (Teams, Secretary, Treasurer);

3. Question Time

   Questions from CAcert.org community members can be added until beginning of committee meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added question here.

   1. "Question One." added by Your Name Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name

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   2. Closing
      1. Propose a date of the next Committee Meeting: 1. Dec. 2022
      2. Agree on the following meeting dates: 5. Jan., 2. Feb., 2. March 2023 (keep date free, can be changed if necessary)

   3. To remember: Goals 2021/2022 (propositions by board 2020/2021) - Each goal needs a responsible person on the board who keeps an eye on it and reports regularly, keeps in touch with the responsible people. obsolete / started / waiting for available time

      • push OrgA (Guy)
      • expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)

      • support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)

      • expand background check

      • simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)

      • remote assurance, if accepted by the community;

      • software development and testing

      • delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is funded by the RIPE NCC.

      • New CSR software
   4. Not to forget: Staffing the teams
      1. Applicants to the Infrastructure team
      2. Applicants to the Development team
      3. Applicant to the Critical team

1. Access to local systems for board members

1. Tasks assigned to Board Members and others

1. Software Team

   1. Issue 1502: Adapt the UI at CAcert.org to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers

   2. Issue 1482: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year

   3. Issue 1444: PHP - Brian

   4. Issue 1417: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard

2. Organisation Assurance
   1. How to relance OrgA? (Guy)
3. Grant applications

   1. Protopype Fund https://prototypefund.de/en/ (mail to SW Board only)

      1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
      2. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
      3. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.

1. Blockchain

   1. see here: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas#Blockchain (waiting for answer from IanG)

Committee meeting - 2022-11-03

Participants

Members of the Committee:

Present, by alphabetical order

Brian McCullough

Etienne Ruedin

Kim Nilsson

Frédéric Dumas

Absent or silent, by alphabetical order

Michael Richardson

Sascha Ternes

Wacław Schiller

Members of the CAcert community and other guests

Having been active during the meeting, by alphabetical order

Aleš Kastner - did not participate - this will be removed if participating

Dirk Astrath - ~Reports are coming!~, ~Teams should "team", even without orders from Board.~, ~Also, teams need more people, else they can't be defined as "teams".~ (I'm paraphrasing, not quoting. /Kim)

Pierre-Olivier Mercier - did not participate - this will be removed if participating

Yuri Nazarov - did not participate - this will be removed if participating

1.1 Opening

The chair, Brian, opens the meeting at 18:15 UTC.

After a slight adjustment the minutes of last meeting, 2022-10-06, were accepted.

Brian then aired the question of medium for these meetings, as IRC has been the tradition for long, but some have requested they be verbal instead of written. Brian suggests we try dual-channels after AGM.

2 Business

2.3 Transition - a way to help the coming board

What we will suggest the new committee to continue. Stop micro-managing! Let Software & Critical Team improve code as they see fit or after suggestion from Board or Members (for example Browser certificate creation by Jan, and Certificate Chain Restructuring suggested by Kim). Same with other teams. They should act only on broad direction by Board. Remote Assurances, there was a spark, but it still awaits someone to take it and run with it.

What we will suggest the new committee to finish.

What we will suggest the new committee to start as we did not have enough time or man power. Organisation Assurances. Recruiting more active people.

2.7 Secure-U

Transition to BIT is on the way. Inventory will be done at next visit to BIT (~2 weeks).

2.8 BGCs - No progress.

2.9 Events - Dirk says ccc cancelled.

2.11 AGM - Annual General Meeting (Saturday, 12.Nov.2022, 20:00 UTC)

2.11.1 Nominations for the next board

Etienne is putting together descriptions for the sitting board members, and awaiting nominations.

2.11.2 Reports - Etienne asks everyone to finish them asap.

3 Question time

3.1 Kim links to the document of making the concept of "What is CAcert and how to join" easier to access.

Dirk mentions different ways of improving the hardware (long term alternative: expensive, powerful but lower power usage - short term alternative: cheaper). Etienne & Frederic says we perhaps can get hardware cheaper or maybe even fully sponsored. All worth looking into.

Frederic asked about the change of registrars for CAcert domains. Dirk explains "cacert.com and cacert.net are at joker now, cacert.org is still at gkg as it was too late to change registrar ... cacert.ch is at infomaniak ". Dirk should reach out to Board for decisions, if necessary, which it probably isn't.

3.2 Next meeting

After AGM, new Committee/Board meeting is planned for 1 Dec 2022.

Brian/Chair ends the meeting at 20:24 UTC.

Logfile

Logfile from meeting 2022-11-03

Motions

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20210901.1

• https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20210901.2

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