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Arbitration Team Meeting 2010-10-20 (20 CEST / 18 UTC)

1 Preliminaries
- 1.1 Chair opens the Committee Meeting
- 1.2 Accept the Minutes Minutes of the last Arbitration Team Meeting 2010-09-07 (u60)
2 Businesses - Important Note: Acceptance of Businesses 48 Hours before beginning of Arbitration Team Meeting latest!
- 2.1 Public and Private part of Arbitration filing added by UlrichSchroeter (continued from last meeting)
  - Regarding Arbitration team meeting April 28th, topic 2.1 How to handle the arbitration cases wiki (Continued from meeting 2010-03-17) that was added by Hans Verbeek, PD wants to present a software to handle arbitration cases with closed and public parts. Since there is no progress on this project, we've decided last meeting (2010-08-18) to build a workaround. As last meeting the discussion hasn't finished completely - still open point: What about the wiki? Will that be used for private data, like proposed last meeting? (with ACL's) - so this top is again on top
  - contribution by Lambert
- 2.2 Inactive CM/A's added by UlrichSchroeter (based on question time DRO info last meeting)
  - DRO started contacting inactive CM/A's. Progress update.
  - Update by DRO
- 2.3 Update on arbitration-archive added by UlrichSchroeter
  - It seems, the mailbox hasn't been created yet. Who pushes the email admins ?
- 2.4 Bulk handling of 30 Delete Account Requests added by UlrichSchroeter
  - To get rid of the Arbitration backlog we have since mid of 2009, I've prepared a plan for bulk handling of all the "Delete Account Requests" cases.
- 2.5 Top Five added by YourName - Comment: Replace "Top Five" by Title of Top and add your Name
  - Additional Inputs - Comment: Replace "Additional Inputs"by Description of Top, Description of Reason-Why/Purpose, Additional Comments, Additional Documents, Additional Links, if useful for other Arbitration Team Members to prepare for Arbitration Team Meeting.
- et cetera
3 Question Time - Important Note: Questions from CAcert.org Community Members can be added until beginning of Arbitration Team Meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added Question here
- 3.1 "Question One" added by YourName - Comment: Replace "Question One" by Your Question and add your Name
- et cetera
4 Closing
- 4.1 Confirm next Arbitration Team Meeting: Usually every 1st Tuesday and the 3rd Wednesday of the month, 20:00 CEST (18 UTC).
  - Tuesday, November 2, 21 CEST, 20 UTC (wintertime!)
- 4.2 Chair closes the Arbitration Team Meeting
- 4.3 Preparation of Minutes

Minutes - Arbitration Team Meeting 2010-10-20

20:13 Chair opens meeting
- 3 Attendees: Mario, Martin, Uli
Top 1.2 - Accepting Minutes of the last Arbitration Team Meeting 2010-09-07
- Summary: no objections, minutes accepted
Top 2.1 - Public and Private part of Arbitration filing
- How about your wiki project by wiki update, cert inclusion ? What is the current state ? expectations ?
  - made at last weeks about 3 setups of moin moin and only one solution works
- client cert in the wiki is a give a way for the arb management but not mandatory
  - from the old days I remind me about the plan to replace all systems with a client cert login ...
  - yes, having certificate login for any system we operate would be ideal, it was generally agreed during discussion. However, looking at resources this would still need lots of time.
  - discussion of whom ? board ? teams ?
  - I would just call them community members for this part. I guess anyone knows that we want cert login, but nearly no one is working on it. Currently we are making efforts for wiki
  - for wiki i would instantly move to cert access because of the spam problem. No password logins.
- so coming back to my question before ... What is the current state about the wiki update to establish the platform that is needed for the priv/pub arb filing ?
  - Why would we need an update for this?
  - you know we can only set ACLs for page by page not for a part of the page
  - why we made this meeting about software / infrastructure this is only a tool for arbitration
- like the arbteam meeting structure, we can set directory ACLs ... so the public arbfile is placed under Arbitrations/ and the private part under eg Arbitrations/priv
- and we have more as one page for an arbitration
- arbitrators awaiting the implementation of the topic into the wiki
- I would say it is already implemented
- so how does it work ? where is it documented ?
- simple public data in the wiki other not in the wiki
  - objection! => result from meeting Team Meeting Minutes-2010-08-18 => private wiki
  - Summary: split arb filing into a public / private part ...
  - private part to be accessible to CM/A's only
  - implementation details not yet focused
  - -> thats it
  - please deploy a proposal how this can work - probably easily ....
- so you want to have a wiki for arbitration set up?
- Proposal: Arbitrations/a###### public part ... leave as is ... create subdir Arbitrations/priv, set ACLs to Arbteam group
  - on writing arbfile ... add a link to Arbitrations/priv/a####### for the private part
  - I think its make more confusing
  - Do you want to do this with the current MoinMoin installation running on wiki.cacert.org?
    - this can probably set with the current wiki.cacert.org as it is set with arbitration-meetings and arbitration-meetings/transcripts
      - public part a.x private part a.x Arbitrations/aXXXX.X Arbitrations/priv/aXXXX.X ---------------------- ---------------------------- header aXXXX.X (priv) history <link to priv> --> private section ruling bottom
  - So you just want to have an admin set some ACLs?
    - but to come to a compromise we try it with the next 5 arbitrations
  - private section is a link in a subdir and a file with the same filename as pub arbcase
  - Arbitration/a20101020.1 (pub) and Arbitration/priv/a20101020.1 (private part)
    - the arb. needs maintain 2 pages
  - so acls only needs to be set once onto Arbitrations/priv
    - at last meetings for many arbt. is the editing of one wiki page not ok
    - you do not need to keep a private record
- Summary: acls set on https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/priv, Uli to write a documentation under Arbitration/Trianing
Top 2.2 - Inactive CM/A's
- Summary: defered 'cause DRO not available
Top 2.3 - Update on arbitration-archive
- arbitration-archive@c.o was requested from mail admins. Login should be sent to DRO
- arbitration-archive is not created yet
- Summary: Mario, plz send a reminder with progress report req to email admins
Top 2.4 - Bulk handling of 30 Delete Account Requests
- Info of a plan to bulk handle all about 30 open Delete Account Requests at once by 3 active Arbitrators
- A modified procedure of handling of initmailing (order turn) should prevent delays by not responding requestors, so probably 80-90% of all cases can be ruled quickly
- Summary: Uli starts request for CM's available to assist A's
Top 4.1 - Next Meeting
- Tuesday, November 2, 21 CEST, 20 UTC (wintertime!)
21:20 Chair closes meeting

Meeting Transcript

Meeting Transcript 2010-10-20 (Transcripts-Page-Template)

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