- Case Number: a20091128.2
- Status: closed
- Claimants: J. Steijlen, Niek Bergman
- Respondents: Johan Swenker
- Case Manager: Hans Verbeek
- Date of arbitration start: 2010-08-30
- Date of ruling: 2010-09-09
- Case closed: 2010-09-09
- Complaint: mismatch between CAP form and document (nickname #2)
Today in Utrect. (HCC-days) I observed a new assurer assure Johan Swenker (<email anonymized>). Our new hero noticed a mismatch between CAP form and document. Documents state "Johan Swenker", form stated "Johan Swenker". "Johan" is a very common varitation on the name "Johannes". I request that the name on his account is changed to "Johannes Swenker". Niek Bergman (<email anonymized>) is the assurer in question. Niek is a new assurer. Not all his points have arrived in the system yet. However, I personally observed the succesfull completion of his CATS test. (96%) Yes I accept the CCA&DRP Greetings Joost
The identity documents provided actually stated (for full accuracy) "Johannes B Swenker". I suggest the name on his account be changed to that. Also, (correcting a small typo in the original dispute filing) the HCC-days were in Utrecht, The Netherlands. Yes, I accept the CCA&DRP. Greetings, Niek (Nicolaas Petrus Johannes) Bergman
- Relief: TBD
Before: Arbitrator UlrichSchroeter (A), Case Manager Hans Verbeek (CM), Respondent: Johan Swenker (R), Claimant: Joost Steijlen (C1) Niek Bergman (C2), Case: a20091128.2
2009-11-28 (UlrichSchroeter): added to wiki, request for CM / A
- 2009-11-28 (C1): accepts CCA / DRP under this arbitration
- 2009-11-28 (R): accepts CCA / DRP under this arbitration (see cacert-disputes)
- 2009-11-28 (C2): accepts CCA / DRP under this arbitration (see cacert-disputes)
- 2009-11-30 CM added
- 2010-08-29 (A): I'll take care about this case
- 2010-08-30 (A): initmailing to (C1), (C2), (R) sent
- 2010-08-30 (A): forwarded all mails thru disputes mailing list to (CM)
- 2010-08-30 (A): CCA / DRP acceptance from (C1), (C2), (R) is confirmed by mailings thru disputes channel, all dated 2009-11-28
- 2010-08-30 (A): (Support): please provide me with the list of assurances received and the full names seperated in fields on (R)'s account
- 2010-08-30 (Support): [s20100830.55] sent list of assurances received by (R) and the name fields that lists the name detailed
- 2010-08-30 (A): explanation of dutch country variation with req to decide which option (R) prefers sent to (R)
- 2010-08-31 (R): I prefer to have the short name in my certificates and hence in my account
- 2010-08-31 (C1): accepts CCA / DRP
- 2009-09-09 (C2): accepts CCA / DRP (again) and sends his statement
- 6 assurances received before 11/2005
- AP pushed out mid 2009 to the Community starting with the ATE's
A precedents case exists: a20090618.12 "User not registered under full name. Ruling accepts a common short name in the account."
(A) follows procedure Arbitration Training Lesson 34 - Investigation on Dutch Name variations
My ruling follows precedents case a20090618.12. This Ruling accepts a common short name variation in the account based on AP 2.2 "different language or country variations"
Respondent has been advised following the procedure as outlined under Arbitration Training Lesson 34 - Investigation on Dutch Name variations about problems with Assurers from other countries. Respondent prefers to leave the Givenname in his Account as is.
- So I hereby rule, that Respondent can leave his Givenname in his account unchanged.
Deliberations to this ruling you'll find in the precedents case a20090618.12
- No actions on Assurers over (R) as assurances were made before AP has been pushed out to the Assurers.
- To the Assurers:
Last year starting with the ATE's Assurers learned to allow only such names in Account that match the IDdocs (strictly). However, as the name rules are in flux, the Dutch "roepnaam" problem hasn't been investigated deeply before the first dispute filings started. Since the ruling of precedents case a20090618.12 new infos received the Assurance Officer and also the Arbitrators about an existing Nederlandse Voornamen Databank (this info received me last weekend on an interview with respondent of case a20091118.2). So on any doubt also international Assurers can check Dutch common short name variations against the name found in the ID doc. But consider, this rule is no clearance for general Nicknames. Like me, my givenname is Ulrich. This is everytime a problem for people from Anglo-American culture to speak, so I moved to the "Rufname" or "roepnaam": Uli. This is to read as a Nickname, because
it doesn't follow the Dutch common short name variation (country variation, that is allowed under AP 2.2), from the Nederlandse Voornamen Databank: Ulrich relates to Oldrik
- I'm not a citizen from the Netherlands, so the Dutch country variation doesn't apply
Btw. another country with known givenname country variation is Belgium, but the Nederlandse Voornamen Databank doesn't include these.
- To the Education Team and Assurance Officer:
Please consider to add above examples to the presentations of the ATE season 2010 and also to the PracticeOnNames
- 2010-09-09 (A): sent out ruling to (C1), (C2), (R), (CM), Education Officer, Assurance Officer, Assurers (thru cacert mailing list)
- 2010-09-09 (A): case closed.
Post Arbitration Note
2010-09-11 (AO): PracticeOnNames updated