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= Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2012-07-10 =

== Setting ==
The MiniTOP will be held via telco  22:00 CEST

Attendees: Marcus, Benny, Uli, dirk (late), magu (late)


== Topics ==

(skip to [[#AGENDA|agenda]])

Action items from last meeting '''[[Software/Assessment/ActionItems|Meeting Action Items]]''' 
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== Agenda ==

## last full agenda https://wiki.cacert.org/Software/Assessment/20120228-S-A-MiniTOP


=== 1. Preface ===
 1. Cebit brainstorming
  * dirk: request for events report
  * (2012-03-27) Marcus awaiting translation from Marc
  * (2012-06-19) Marcus: translation received, will send within the next upcoming days
  * (2012-06-26) Marcus: not yet finished

=== 2. 2nd review of about 5 patches ===

 ||<#ff8080> '''Software-Assessors task''' ||

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=789|bug #789]] OA edit domain fix, Editing domain for organisations does not work<<BR>>new update 2011-09-26<<BR>>2 tests, needs 2nd review, deploy<<BR>>more fixes, more testing
   * 2nd review of 1 patch
    * Michael cannot do, needs doing by dirk (or other Software-Assessor, who else?)

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=978|bug #978]] bug 978 (weak keys) (bug 918)
   * invalid key format, no regular error message, something wrong, error code # identified
   * debugging infos from user + infos from critical team with error code #, was spkac routine
   * one test done 2011-12-17 by JensK
   * uli, marcus: more tests: certs routine, weak keys (small keys test), relates to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug#540]] tests
   * (week 7)

  1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug#540]] No key usage attribute in cacert org certs anymore?
   * also: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=905|bug#905]]
   * Policy group discussion - Extended key usage -> [[PolicyDecisions#p20111113|p20111113]], motion CARRIED
   * deployment
    1. prepare fixes -> Michael to prepare diffs, against svn
    1. sending to testserver
    1. transfer to critical system
   * (2011-12-13) approx 2 weeks to write the fix, approx 2 months to go
   * Michael did transfer the patch to testserver
    * signer code update
    * changes against svn
    * uli, to add to tester portal, done
    * uli to inform testers about new tests
    * test report from kenneth to transfer to report (email from 2011-12-25)
     * Michael: where to find the report from kenneth? link?
     * NEO has added the report (written to private dl)
    * who has adobe 8 for testing?
     * magu has, please test
    * next: needs testing (week 6)
     * uli, marcus: needs full cert create tests
     * uli (2012-01-25): sent notification to software testers
     * awaiting testing ... problem FULL test, including all possible variations with certs creation
     * also to report under [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=978|bug #978]] bug 978 (weak keys) (bug 918)
    * Testers: test all certs veriations, functions

 || neo || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1024|bug #1024]] Assurer flag is not set correctly on updatesort.php run || tested by 4, ok || 2 {0} ||
 || Michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug #540]] || p20111113 CPS #7.1.2 "Certificate Extensions" adjustments - testing<<BR>>uli, marcus: needs full cert create tests<<BR>>duplicate report to bug#978 || 3 {0} ||
 || inopiae || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=981|bug #981]] OA overview (dupe of [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=943|bug #943]]) || New layout of view for Organisation Administrators in account/id35 || 4 {0} ||
 || neo || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=978|bug #978]] Invalid SPKAC requests are not properly validated || recheck full certs signing procedures<<BR>>duplicate report to bug#540 || 5 {0} ||
 || uli, ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=789|bug #789]] OA edit domain fix || Editing domain for organisations does not work<<BR>>new update 2011-09-26<<BR>>2 tests, needs 2nd review, deploy<<BR>>more fixes, more testing || 6 {0} ||

=== 3. bug #1023 Testing (6.php) ===
 1. Thawte points removal, final step
  * last patch transfered to production system 2012-05-30
 1. what are the next steps for thawte points revoke?
   * points settings codes eg 50 pts open gpg/pgp, which certs avail by how many pts
   * 15.php needs rename to 10.php
   * cannot move forward without dirk

=== 4. Marcus Bugs list ===
 * see also [[Software/BugsOverview]]

 * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1023|bug#1023]] related
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=583|bug#583]] "Assure Somebody" allows future assurance dates
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=648|bug#648]] send message from Assurer to Member
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=802|bug#802]] Name parts should be designated in assurance form
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=870|bug#870]] My Details - My Points show bugus time stamp
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=914|bug#914]] Information about Practice on Name while entering an Assurance
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=930|bug#930]] types wrong points in "Assure Someone" form
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=931|bug#931]] Date of assurance in future don't throw any exception
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=998|bug#998]] When entering an assurance in the WoT one line of the form the suffix is given in another line the suffix is missing.
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1000|bug#1000]] Entering an assurance into the system after searching for an assurer causes a pre-filled location field
 * Others
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=118|bug#118]] Secure TTP Form upload - outdated, conflicts with new procedure, closed
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=428|bug#428]] Reminder language-drop-down-box doesn't keep "English" if you choose it again - cannot be reproduced, tested by 2, closed
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=489|bug#489]] Pb on rewarding 2 points for an assurance
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=567|bug#567]] case sensitive email: tested by 2, cannot be confirmed, closed
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=767|bug#767]] Single-quotes escaped in Web-of-Trust contact form.
 * info pages to wiki pages
  * starting [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=671|bug #671]]. there still exist a bug# [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=740|bug #740]] (How to become an assurer is missleading)

 * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=491|bug #491]] "Please allow usage of "secondary" emails user ids." - proposes: Close with rejected
  {{{
  * username/password half of the combination is known to potential attacker
  * login prevents login to several email addresses
  * acceptance to several email addresses is prevented
  * no notification if primary email address has been changed
  * note regarding Policy Group
  * dirk: proposal: response email address exists, but isn't primary email ?
   * create new account results in "email address exists"
   * what is a proper response?
   * requestor has to be an assurer for assure someone
  * neo: for registration process chaptcha required
  * no good solution
  * for assurance only primary, for all other services allow also secondary addresses
   * search needs enhancement: search not only primary, also secondary
}}}

 * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=571|bug #571]] "need for email addresses (or link) in admin console" - proposes: Closed with solved by other bug fix
  {{{
  * primary and secondary email addresses are shown in admin console
}}}

 * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=591|bug #591]] "CPS has to be improved for audit." - proposes: Closed
  {{{
  * CPS is a working revision also DRAFT revision included
  * relates to policy repository bug# final place finding
}}}

 * addtl. groups:
  a. OA
  a. CCA rollout
  a. TTP

=== 5. Benny reviews ===
 1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1025|bug #1025]] "Domain Dispute strange behaviour / Domain Dispute issue", checked
  * wrong description, problem removing domains, bugfix solves this problem
  * async removal of certs by signer
  * needs review and testing
  * inopiae will try testing on upcoming weekend
  * to test: email- and domain dispute

 1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=922|bug #922]] "CAcert application code problem causing missing 'certificate about to expire' messages", checked
  * patch seems to be ok
  * white spaces cleanup
  * includes/account.php var $id shall be fixed within recursion, new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1078|bug #1078]]
  * 2 tests initiated by inopiae and u60
  * principle ok, but very confusing
  * test reports Marcus:
   * discussions, Marcus got 71 or 72 notifications
   * Neo: default 5 notifications: 45d, 30d, 15d, 3d, 1d

 1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1019|bug #1019]] "Contact form does not work when logged in"
  * Michael: rework contact form
   * usability: 1 form, option box with public/support delivery, default support
   * current form 1: public, form 2: private
   * spam prevention via java, on disabled java the mail is marked [possible spam]
  * mass mailing possible if adding multiple emails separated by commas
  * account.php - email address from sender, no address validation, several other places it passes address validation
  * neo: why not use primary email address?
   * works only if logged-in
  * index?id=11 has also been changed
  * url was hardcoded
  * account.php?id=14
  * sendmail() routine in includes/mysql.php

=== 6. New SA candidates ===

 1. ABC Benny - possible Itzehoe (2012-09-14), mrmcd (2012-09-08) or other events before 2012-08-10 - 2012-08-11 BarCamp kiel
  * [[Arbitrations/a20120703.1|ABC Benny]]
 1. Whats with ABC over archaios?

=== 7. English Translation Problems ===

 * how to handle typing error in web phrase [[Software/TranslationMisspelling]]
  . "Can't continue with certificaterequest." in ../includes/account.php:341 ../includes/account.php:1482

=== 8. Long Term Projects ===
 1. NEO: "BlackJack"

 1. Marek's sql class project:
  * is working on charset replacement

 1. api project, Carsten continues with portal project if vendor-api will be delivered
  * potential candidates for development
   1. Marek's sql class proposal
    * needs probably db upgrades
    * needs addtl. indices
    * needs testing
   1. archaios
    * builds daemon as unpreviliged user
  * vendor-api delayed
   * no coders
   * other projects
   * related to sql class project

=== 9. next meeting ===
 * Tuesday, July 17, 2012 22:00 CEST


== Minutes ==

=== 1. Preface ===
 1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=922|bug #922]] test report / review
  * one test account, 1 client cert, 1 server cert, received 105 (1) reminders (!!!)
   * 15 reminders checked, 1 for client cert, 14 for server cert
   * needs further inspection
 1. Cebit brainstorming
  * 2nd draft finished
  * Sat report missing
 1. Bennys c.o address
  * wip
 1. offer for timeserver hardware
  * company is current under OA wip
 1. Marcus: info from NEO: "BlackJack" moved forward
 1. api project, Carsten continues with portal project not waiting for vendor-api to be delivered
  * potential candidates for development
   1. Marek
   1. archaios
  * vendor-api delayed
   * no coders
   * other projects
   * related to sql class project
  * portal project continues with a workaround, needs an assurer
  * arbitration case on locations database orders outsourcing of find-an-assurer asap
  * with portal function, update of data is possible, update of data on critical system is difficult

 1. patches 2nd review, Benny to do pre-view
  || neo || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1024|bug #1024]] Assurer flag is not set correctly on updatesort.php run || tested by 4, ok || 2 {0} ||
  || Michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug #540]] || p20111113 CPS #7.1.2 "Certificate Extensions" adjustments - testing<<BR>>uli, marcus: needs full cert create tests<<BR>>duplicate report to bug#978 || 3 {0} ||
  || inopiae || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=981|bug #981]] OA overview (dupe of [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=943|bug #943]]) || New layout of view for Organisation Administrators in account/id35 || 4 {0} ||
  || neo || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=978|bug #978]] Invalid SPKAC requests are not properly validated || recheck full certs signing procedures<<BR>>duplicate report to bug#540 || 5 {0} ||
  || uli, ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=789|bug #789]] OA edit domain fix || Editing domain for organisations does not work<<BR>>new update 2011-09-26<<BR>>2 tests, needs 2nd review, deploy<<BR>>more fixes, more testing || 6 {0} ||

  * for #540 uli has sent a short summary to dirk
 1. dirk 2nd review of patches
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=540|bug #540]]
   * diff line 23ff unclear, what does section ($root==2) mean?
   * also unclear: else section $CRLUrl="http://crl.cacert.org/root${root}.crl";
   * skipped
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1024|bug #1024]]
   * server.pl, too much changes to review in a working session, skipped
  * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=789|bug #789]]
   * what is /pages/account/29.php for?  edit org domain
   * (pc vm crashed)

 1. Discussion about Assurance, CAP, documents, retention of CAP forms and other events related stuff

 1. next meeting: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 22:00 CEST


==== Fixed Action Items since last or within meeting ====
 || uli || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=967|bug #967]] OA isassurer check || Give an OA the opportunity to check if a designated Organisation Administrator is a CAcert assurer || 1 {0} ||

==== Action Items New ====



Action items: '''[[Software/Assessment/ActionItems|Meeting Action Items]]'''

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