. '''To Software''' '''[[Software|Software]]''' - '''To Software-Assessment - ''' '''[[Software/Assessment|Software/Assessment]]''' - '''To [[Software/Assessment/20110726-S-A-MiniTOP|previous meeting]]''' - '''To [[Software/Assessment/20110809-S-A-MiniTOP|next meeting]]''' ---- = Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2011-08-02 = == Setting == The MiniTOP will be held via telco 22:00 CEST Attendees: Magu, Benedikt F, Marcus, Dirk, Uli, Ted, Michael, Alex == Topics == (skip to agenda) Action items from last meeting '''[[Software/Assessment/ActionItems|Meeting Action Items]]''' == Agenda == 1. PRO 1. Milestone 3 of Software-Assessment project team reached? "Build + Document Emergency Patches Path" * As a side effect on writing the AGM 2010-2011 report, the reach of milestone 3 comes to question * The side effect becomes possible by the last meeting vote on parallele processing of patches * how about documentation? 1. how to handle / work with git * git pull * git diff origin/release...origin/bug-921>bug921.patch * send to critical team by email (with template) * link to bug, who reviewed, people to cc 1. Workshop - The List of open / running / unhandled bugs 1. x^1^ Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] Weak keys [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug #918]] / [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]] / [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] * Current state: || {g} || pre mailing sent || || {g} || keys revocation script to bulk revoke weak keys, new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]], finished || || {-} || dirk: DEV: [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918]] Weak keys: /pages/account/.. 4.php, 17.php to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) '''DEV''' <
>vbscript needs to be improved with select box key size and lower limit to 2048 (based on [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:MD5and1024]])<
>Api CertEnroll (MS crypto provider)<
>new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<
>current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver<
>Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed<
>some references added to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] || || {g} || Weak keys blog post, published || || {0} || Weak keys article not yet published by Hanno || || {b} || weak keys: problems with cryptostick (to test at [[events/FrOSCon2011|Froscon]] with Juergen ?) || 1. x^2^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] "Thawte" patch - Points-Count-Order-Change project - 2nd Review + deploy * Next step(s) ? * current state on production system? table points: count(id) > 150 points ? * fix points < 0 and points > 150 in bug 827 ? * included * missing: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] 2nd review * dirk to add note in bugtracker, done * todo: 1. NEO: 2nd review of [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] 1. NEO: bundling [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] to critical team * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] deployed 1. x^3^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] : Weak Passwords - 2nd Review + deploy * Overall result: Please evaluate if the session problem can be fixed! * if password changed, cached info - reminder plz change pwd * session reset and error messages in system log * new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] * /includes/loggedin.php line 140 ff. to fix * Ted: checked-in cacert-devel, added to testserver * needs review, re-testing * Next steps: * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]] transfered to critical team * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] needs 2nd review, deploy * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] still open, to continue * {-} maybe we have a potential problem here: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]] is transfered to critical system, [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] aren't. 637 depends on 653 and 963. On testserver this _complete_ bundle works. 1. x^4^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=841|bug #841]] Problems on cert login * needs 2nd review - Ted, done<
>needs bundling, done * NEO: did restructuring (sql query to subroutine), (Update 2011-07-26) * needs re-tested * needs 2nd review, bundling 1. Dirk '''reminder''' (from last meeting) assure someone patches (checkboxes) || Dirk || DEV: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=894|bug #894]] problems with check-boxes on website forms (Assure someone) -> [[Arbitrations/a20091118.3|a20091118.3]] || {0} || 1. Review 1: review, add to cacert-devel, transfer to testserver || Dirk, Michael, Ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=957|bug #957]] Resize the comment field on [[https://secure.cacert.org/account.php?id=27]] so more information is visible || {0} || || Dirk, Michael, Ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=965|bug #965]] 0000965: Outsource / fix Webdb text pages id=12, 13 || {0} || 1. Review bugs under testing (finished testing?) (Review 2?) || x^2^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug #827]] "Thawte" patch (still running)<
>related [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] || needs 1 more test, needs 2nd review<
>2nd review: also check -x<
>tests done, 2nd review outstanding || {0} <
> {g} || || x^3^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|bug #637]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] weak password || needs 2nd review, not Micha -> Ted, done<
>Overall result: Please evaluate if the session problem can be fixed! (new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]]) || {g} <
> {0} <
> {0} || || x^4^ NEO: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=841|bug #841]] Problems on cert login || needs 2nd review - Ted, done<
>needs bundled<
>NEO will check to get sql query extracted<
>needs pushing<
>pushed to testserver<
>Needs Review & testing || {0} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=910|bug #910]] Outsource board member list || from Webdb to wiki (id=8) (Part II) || {0} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=955|bug #955]] change sort order Orga list || Possibilty to change the sorting order for the organisation overview || {0} || 1. (review), to bundle, to deploy || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=942|bug #942]] CATS import (2) || complete re-test as of code changes<
>fully re-tested by 2 testers || {0} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=911|bug #911]] gpg bug || gpg keys expires 1970<
>tests started 2 weeks ago<
>needs review, deploy || {0} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=940|bug #940]] help* to wiki || Outsource Webdb text pages help.php?id=0..9 to wiki<
>needs review, deploy || {0} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] failure on pwd change redirect || needs 2nd review, deploy || {0} || 1. Needs development, deployment, discussion || x^1^ Dirk, new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<
>DEV: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918 (Part II)]] ([[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]]) Weak keys: /pages/account/.. 4.php, 17.php to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) '''DEV''' || current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver<
>Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed<
>some references added to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] || {-} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=835|bug #835]] Assurer challenge (on testserver) || asssigned to Ted, set to needs work, CATS to install on ca-mgr1 || {0} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=943|bug #943]] change OA admin/assurer text || -> Ted, rejected, needs comment from OAO || {-} || || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=958|bug #958]] || ADS Challenge, Advertising || {0} || 1. Deployed, Finished || Ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=921|bug #921]] Privacy Policy cleanup || Marcus: 2nd test {g} / Dirk, Ted: 2nd review {g} || {g} || || Michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]] ([[https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]]) Next: script to bulk revoke weak keys || deployed || {g} {g} || || Michael || x^3^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|bug #637]] weak password || deployed w/o [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] and w/o [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] || {g} || || Michael || x^2^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] - patch for [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug #827]] Thawte patch/Points-Count-Order-Change project || deployed w/o [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug #827]] || {g} || 1. strategy plans ... next: strategy for "New Roots & Escrow" 1. idea: using indirect crl's ? * 2 crl's needed, one valid, one invalid crl server * more infos available ? who ? 1. build testserver with special certs 1. Magu, Michael to send instructions for test deployment * indirect CRL: RFC 5280 [[http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5280]] (chapter 5) * meetings ago we've defined Testing requirements and a potential testszenario * to remind every meeting 1. policy group: define requirements * multimember escrow method ? * needs risk analyze * potential candidates ? * Marcus to contacted Benedikt, will contact Thomas K * Next step(s) 1. how does debian work ? * defered to Froscon (end of Aug), CCCcamp (around Aug 10th) 1. [[AGM/TeamReports/2011#Software-Assessment-Project|AGM reports 2010-2011]] * Software-Assessment project team report finished, plz review * Weak keys / Weak passwords missing * Sections added: * Weak Keys / Weak Passwords Arbitration cases * The Software-Testteam * Software-Assessment Documentation * Statistics * Summary 1. Documentation Bugs.cacert.org Review * discussion about states to define, redefine * bugs documentation I ([[Software/Assessment/Documentation/bugs|bugs handbook]]) * bugs documentation II (to incorporate into the [[Software/Assessment/Documentation|Software-Update-Cycle]] procedure/documentation) * Review, Update * svg pictures have cuted text under some browsers * u60: cant get it scaled 1. CI (Update) * [[http://live.eclipse.org/node/1031|description to eclipse testpage]], [[http://adobedev.adobe.acrobat.com/p4101brizwr/|Webinar]] * deployment scenario: 1. create testusers 1. testing 1. delete testusers * regression test for standard tests: eg 0,1,49,50,51,99,100,101 pts w/ and w/o CATS passed * reminder 1. next meeting: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 22:00 == Minutes == 1. PRO * question from board -> PR officer * request to Alex * support from all 1. Milestone 3 of Software-Assessment project team reached? "Build + Document Emergency Patches Path" * As a side effect on writing the AGM 2010-2011 report, the reach of milestone 3 comes to question * The side effect becomes possible by the last meeting vote on parallele processing of patches * how about documentation? * git allows several branches * documentation * who decides that issue is an emergency patch ? * disconnect machine from network * what if a check of user data is needed? * simple case: Software Assessor requests emergency patch thru critical admin 1. publishing "Weak key" issue * awaiting Hanno's publishing 1. how to handle / work with git * git pull * git diff origin/release...origin/bug-921>bug921.patch * send to critical team by email (with template) * link to bug, who reviewed, people to cc * git pull / git clone * git clone is from scratch, local branches that exists before not included * git pull * branches will be merged, but don't cover all branches * local changes not pushed to master * Ted: commited branch to wrong place instead of origin/release 1. Froscon coordinations 1. Workshop - The List of open / running / unhandled bugs 1. x^1^ Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] Weak keys [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug #918]] / [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]] / [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] * Current state: || {g} || pre mailing sent || || {g} || keys revocation script to bulk revoke weak keys, new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]], finished || || {-} || dirk: DEV: [[Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]] [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=918|bug#918]] Weak keys: /pages/account/.. 4.php, 17.php to combine ? (/includes/keygen.php) '''DEV''' <
>vbscript needs to be improved with select box key size and lower limit to 2048 (based on [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:MD5and1024]])<
>Api CertEnroll (MS crypto provider)<
>new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]]<
>current state: test /account/4.php added to testserver<
>Marcus will do detailed tests on Wed<
>some references added to [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] || || {g} || Weak keys blog post, published || || {0} || Weak keys article not yet published by Hanno || || {b} || weak keys: problems with cryptostick (to test at [[events/FrOSCon2011|Froscon]] with Juergen ?) || * cert enroll infos under [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=964|bug#964]] * vista and win7 works with other engine !CryptoAPI (?) => Cryptography API: Next Generation * [[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa833130%28v=VS.85%29.aspx]] * Hanno published the article (July 28), link is in CAcert's blog post (July 30) 1. x^2^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] "Thawte" patch - Points-Count-Order-Change project - 2nd Review + deploy * Next step(s) ? * current state on production system? table points: count(id) > 150 points ? * fix points < 0 and points > 150 in bug 827 ? * included * missing: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] 2nd review * dirk to add note in bugtracker, done * todo: 1. NEO: 2nd review of [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] 1. NEO: bundling [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] to critical team * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] deployed * 2nd review and bundling by Ted * bundling instruction to critical team, deploy 15.php, and 7 days later 10.php 1. x^3^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] : Weak Passwords - 2nd Review + deploy * Overall result: Please evaluate if the session problem can be fixed! * if password changed, cached info - reminder plz change pwd * session reset and error messages in system log * new [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] * /includes/loggedin.php line 140 ff. to fix * Ted: checked-in cacert-devel, added to testserver * needs review, re-testing * Next steps: * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]] transfered to critical team * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] needs 2nd review, deploy * [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] still open, to continue * {-} maybe we have a potential problem here: [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|Bug #637]] is transfered to critical system, [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] and [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] aren't. 637 depends on 653 and 963. On testserver this _complete_ bundle works. * 953: 2nd review, Dirk * go into repository * git fetch --all * no option all * git fetch origin * git diff origin/release...origin/bug-953 * bundle: NEO * 963: addtl. for while loops ... Michael is checking * bundle: NEO 1. x^4^ [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=841|bug #841]] Problems on cert login * needs 2nd review - Ted, done<
>needs bundling, done * NEO: did restructuring (sql query to subroutine), (Update 2011-07-26) * needs re-tested * needs 2nd review, bundling * => Ted on Wed 1. Needs development, deployment, discussion 1. change OA admin/assurer text || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=943|bug #943]] change OA admin/assurer text || -> Ted, rejected, needs comment from OAO || {-} || * webdb names OrgAdmins as OrgAssurers and names OrgAssurers as OrgAdmins. * patch takes account about this issue * problem with menu link Org Admin .. is Org Assurers menu * but this menu includes one addtl. link "View" that is available for Org Admins * and Org Admins with master flag to add new admins * master flag is not described in OAP (!) * addtl master flag to revoke ? * rename to "Org Administration" * don't show menu to OrgAdmins 1. Marcus: [[https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20110608.1|OA Arb mailing case (a20110608.1]]: motion for mailing passed ([[https://community.cacert.org/board/motions.php?motion=m20110731.2|=m20110731.2]]) * next: translations 1. [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=966|bug #966]] * tests ok, but the question is, is OrgAdmin allowed to remove other admins ? yes or no? * current scenario doesn't allow removal of other admin * NEO: reset testserver state to fix state before bugfix * NEO: re-add bug 966 to testserver * bug needs more work, selection currently clashes with language setting (Delete != Löschen) * general problem in /pages/account.php with process variable, transfer of "cancel" pushes any action ==== Fixed Action Items since last or within meeting ==== || Ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=921|bug #921]] Privacy Policy cleanup || Marcus: 2nd test {g} / Dirk, Ted: 2nd review {g} || {g} || || Michael || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=954|bug #954]] ([[https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20110312.1|a20110312.1]]) Next: script to bulk revoke weak keys || awaiting 2nd response || {g} {g} || || Dirk, Ted || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=637|bug #637]] weak password || deployed w/o [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=953|bug #953]] and w/o [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=963|bug #963]] || {g} || || Neo || [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=959|bug #959]] - patch for [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug #827]] Thawte patch/Points-Count-Order-Change project || deployed w/o [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|bug #827]] || {g} || ---- ==== Action Items New ==== || Uli || "Build + Document Emergency Patches Path" <
>documentation<
>who decides that issue is an emergency patch ?<
>disconnect machine from network<
>what if a check of user data is needed?<
>simple case: Software Assessor requests emergency patch thru critical admin || {0} || Action items: '''[[Software/Assessment/ActionItems|Meeting Action Items]]''' <> ---- . CategorySoftwareAssessment