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= Minutes of the MiniTOP on the 2011-03-08 =

== Setting ==
The MiniTOP will be held via telco   22:00 CET

Attendees: Michael, Magu, Dirk, Uli

== Action items from last meeting ==
 * Michael: Hosting providers: to contact Martin Ga regarding questions about VMs on vienna hosting
 * Dirk: regular Thawte patches
 * Michael: TMS function
 * Reviews
  * to SA's: review [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=910|Bug# 910]] (Board Link)
  * to SA's: review [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=896|Bug# 896]]
 * Dirk: strategy for: "Certificates Class3" problem and "New Roots & Escrow"
  * contact root cert group
 * Uli: logging  * current state on production system ? severity ? debug ?  ask critical team (topic: review MTA sendmail function)
 * Uli: arbitration case ... Security check procedures
 * Automated testing system (Andreas, Magu, MSchiffer) (Update)
  * Michael will check

== Topics ==
 * State Testserver Update
  * Current Patches on Testserver:
   * "Thawte" patch [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=827|Bug# 827]]
   * Board Link patch [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=910|Bug# 910]]
   * /locale/ cleanup [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=896|Bug# 896]]
  * see action items
 * strategy plans ...
  * strategy for: "Certificates Class3" problem and "New Roots & Escrow"
  * see action items
  * [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-root/2011-02/msg00030.html|pragmatic solution proposed]]
 * [[OverviewProjectsBoard|Overview Projects Board]] (wiki:OverviewProjectsBoard) topics for SA
 * Signer deployment (Andreas/Markus) (Update)
 * Automated testing system (Andreas, Magu, MSchiffer) (Update)
 * next meeting: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 22:00

== Minutes ==
 * Michael: Hosting providers: to contact Martin Ga regarding questions about VMs on vienna hosting
  * IPv6 ?
  * Costs
  * Which virtual machine ? Migration from VM ESX ?
  * Traffic
 * Dirk: regular Thawte patches
  * still open
 * Michael: TMS function (Assurances)
  * still open
 * Reviews
  * to SA's: review [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=910|Bug# 910]] (Board Link)
   * still open -> Dirk
  * to SA's: review [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=896|Bug# 896]]
   * exclude translingo translations from tarball -> Michael -> reminder to Markus, Philipp
 * Michael: request: add SA's to Admin in bugs for customizing
 * Dirk: strategy for: "Certificates Class3" problem and "New Roots & Escrow"
  * contact root cert group
  * still open
 * Uli: logging  * current state on production system ? severity ? debug ?  ask critical team (topic: review MTA sendmail function)
  * Mail sent Tue 2011-03-08
  * Trigger as Arbitration ?
  * mail goes thru 2 systems www.cacert.org, wwwmail.cacert.org
  * logging level on local test: info
  * proposal: next event script enable debugging logging, disable logging, analyze
 * Uli: arbitration case ... Security check procedures
  * will readd onto topic if case rechecked
 * Automated testing system (Andreas, Magu, MSchiffer) (Update)
  * Michael checked
  * Selenium: change to new revision
   * Firefox plugin, tests to click, rapid prototyping
   * new revision: java + c-sharp programatable
   * interface to programming language
   * browser remote instructioning
   * old revision had also php support
  * discussion unit tests, tester tests, repository for test scripts, automated reporting
 * [[OverviewProjectsBoard|Overview Projects Board]] (wiki:OverviewProjectsBoard) topics for SA
  * 1.1 Software Assessment - finished (except docu), Dirk to contact aphexer
  * 1.2 Software Development - not related
  * 1.3 Software Test Team - Testers inactivy
   * Contacts: Marcus, Uli
   * How to "activate" testers ?
  * 1.4 Change Point Count System - Deadline Nov 16th 2010 - current running
  * 1.5 New Software - BirdShack
   * design plan exists, but not finished, no prio
   * no resources - no team
   * Building team ?
   * Question: do we reach Audit Ready with old codebase ? Yes/No ?
    * We can reach Audit Ready with old software
    * Procedure is available, low on resources, but works
    * Birdshack: no resources, long development time
    * Kernel: C/C++, Dispatcher: Java, Gui: Python -> Who can program in C/C++, Java, Python ? -> No resources
   * Alternate migration path: step by step migration of old code
   * Building team ? no resources
   * low priority
  * 2.1 New Root
   * Software Changes (todo break into detail) -> software team
   * Addtl. software for upgrade/migration
  * 3.1 Roll-out CCA - information to all community members
   * before new roots
   * 0.1 we have
   * 0.5 write into database 
   * 1.0 req by adding assurance
   . [ * tzzzz 1:35 ]
  * 4.1 Deploy test-servers
   * project finished
  * 6 Support
   * patches relates to Support crew
    * delete account patch
    * display certs
  * 7 Policy Group
   * policy related patches
    * PoJAM
    * TTP
  * 8.1 Assurance
   * see 7
  * Priorities
   1. Thawte, Points Order Change
   2. Class3 fixes
   3. display certs
   4. Delete Account procedure
   5. CCA Rollout Part I: GPG/PGP, issue certs
   6. CCA Rollout Part II: Assurances incl. PoJAM, TTP
 * next meeting: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 22:00
 * [2:18] meeting closed

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Action items:
 * Dirk: (OverviewProjectsBoard) notification to board
 * Michael: Hosting providers: to contact Martin Ga regarding questions about VMs on vienna hosting
 * Dirk: regular Thawte patches
 * Michael: TMS function (Assurances)
 * Reviews
  * Dirk: to SA's: review [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=910|Bug# 910]] (Board Link)
  * Michael: to SA's: review [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=896|Bug# 896]]
   * exclude translingo translations from tarball -> Michael -> reminder to Markus, Philipp
 * Michael: add SA's to Admin in bugs for customizing, mail to Philipp, Andreas, Mario
 * Dirk: strategy for: "Certificates Class3" problem and "New Roots & Escrow"
  * contact root cert group
 * Michael: CI (low priority)

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