KiwiIRC CAcert10 #board-meeting 19:59:44 [NickServ] Welcome to CAcert, Etienne! Here on CAcert, we provide services to enable the registration of nicknames and channels! For details, type /msg NickServ help and /msg ChanServ help. 19:59:44 → Etienne est entré 19:59:56 ⓘ sat|away s'appelle désormais sat 20:00:07 sat Good morning and good evening! 20:00:16 bdmc Etienne: I like your "address :: 0000@localhost" ! 20:00:36 Etienne ??? 20:00:44 Hello! 20:01:48 KimNilsson Hello 20:01:57 bdmc According to my calendar, the time has come, correct? 20:02:17 sat yes 20:02:31 bdmc Etienne: Would you please post the Agenda URL for the few of us that are here? 20:02:56 sat I have another meeting in parallel - so if I am not responding you know why. 20:03:13 bdmc Incidentally, I hereby call this meeting of the Board of CAcert, Inc, to order. 20:03:33 Etienne https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-09-01 20:03:58 https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-08-04#Minutes 20:04:33 KimNilsson For those that have access, here are the minutes. If you can, you are free to help out making sure the minutes are as close to reality as possible. 20:04:36 https://nextcloud.cacert.org/apps/files/?dir=/CAcert%20board/CAcert%20-%20Committee%20meetings&openf... 20:05:38 KimNilsson "here are today's minutes", I meant to say 20:07:02 bdmc Would anybody like to offer a motion to accept last month's minutes? 20:07:24 sat yes 20:07:31 KimNilsson I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 4th of August 2022. 20:07:37 sat I second 20:07:39 Etienne aye 20:07:50 bdmc Aye 20:08:03 sat abstain 20:08:45 bdmc Is there anything in either the Board Private or Board mailing lists that we need to discuss? 20:09:09 Etienne nothing heard 20:09:45 bdmc Thank you. 20:10:02 Is there anything to discuss regarding Wiki access? 20:10:27 KimNilsson I HAVE WIKI ACCESS! 20:10:34 bdmc Ta Daaa!! 20:11:19 Etienne and Michael as well (just waiting for his confirmation) 20:11:48 bdmc Moving on. Item 2.3 -- Finance --- I saw Michael's id when I logged in, but I suspect that he isn't actually here. 20:11:50 Etienne KimNilsson: How to register your vote for the agenda? 20:12:06 KimNilsson Aye 20:12:31 Etienne Thank you, Kim. bdmc: maybe move to openid 20:12:34 KimNilsson Sorry, it's fairly cpmmon that the person asking to move for something is an automatic Aye. 20:13:00 bdmc Yes, I was confused with that when I first started attending these meetings. 20:13:28 KimNilsson I will confirm with Aye in the future. 20:13:35 bdmc Item 2.4 -- OpenID Connect 20:14:57 bdmc I don't remember -- yes, I just checked last month's minutes, and, as I said last month, Jan has been doing some work on the overall structure and way that the project is installed. 20:15:50 KimNilsson Is that new from last month, or a repeat of what you said then? 20:16:04 bdmc That, combined with his family vacation, has helped delay my efforts. I am still working to have something to show by the end of this month. 20:16:13 KimNilsson Gotcha 20:16:56 bdmc Unless there are other questions, I will move on. 20:17:01 KimNilsson go 20:17:11 Etienne Are we in time? (I have no idea until when we should ....) 20:18:30 bdmc I don't remember the official deadlines -- Frederic probably does, but he is returning from his family holiday today, so will likely not be with us. 20:18:56 Item 2.5 -- SecureU 20:19:01 Any reports on this? 20:19:43 Etienne not at the moment, Michael seems to have access and asked that I will have access to. 20:20:02 means: transfer is on the way, step by step. 20:20:09 bdmc Good, thank you. 20:20:19 Item 2.6 -- Background checks. 20:20:25 Anything new? 20:20:43 Etienne Dirk seems very busy, I steped in for the next BGC. 20:20:58 Date is in confirmation phase for september 2022. 20:21:29 BGC of Kim by Ted and Etienne. 20:21:38 KimNilsson We're trying to drill down a day/time. Peopel are available differnt days and times. As can be expected. But there's hope. 20:21:43 bdmc Yes, it has been a busy summer for several of us. 20:22:38 Item 2.7 -- New Registrar 20:22:55 Etienne Should CAcert's domains be transferred to another registrar, as it has been suggested by Dirk before? 20:23:10 Michael wrote some criterias -> Agenda. 20:23:28 KimNilsson There seems to be several reasons pointing to it being a good idea. 20:23:50 bdmc I don't remember -- I thought that we had passed a motion assigning responsibility to the Critical Team, so it is no longer the Board's responsibility. 20:25:20 bdmc Moving on again -- Item 2.8 :: Events 20:25:48 Does anybody want to say anything about the summer's conferences and events. 20:26:03 KimNilsson That bdmc - it as in the minutes to be put on the agenda of this meeting. 20:26:10 it was 20:26:25 and we have discussed it on every Wednesday meeting since then 20:26:45 that's why it feels like has already been decided 20:26:50 bdmc You aren't talking about Events, are you? 20:26:58 Etienne back to 07/2020, I could not find such a motion. 20:27:00 KimNilsson nah, Registrar 20:27:22 3 Question time 20:27:22 3.1 Frederic asked if CAcert's domains should be transferred to another registrar, which has been suggested by Dirk before. It will be added to the agenda of board meeting in September. 20:27:33 Etienne But we can made such a motion. 20:27:38 (registrar) 20:27:39 bdmc OK. In that case I feel that it would be appropriate to make such a motion. 20:28:45 bdmc I move that CAcert's Critical Team be authorised to choose a new registrar for CAcert's purposes, at a time appropriate for their needs. 20:28:51 KimNilsson Seconded 20:29:00 bdmc No discussion? 20:29:05 Aye 20:29:18 Etienne aye 20:29:23 KimNilsson CritTeam will, of course collaborate with Michael - to not make his job harder 20:29:53 bdmc Of course -- good point. I feel that I should amend the motion. 20:30:21 KimNilsson Nah, CritTeam are competent people. Is enough that is in the minutes that I said so. 20:30:35 And, it's in the agenda as a requirement. 20:30:42 bdmc OK, easier for my typing. B-) 20:31:05 Any other votes on this motion? 20:31:24 sat aye 20:31:37 bdmc Thank you all. 20:31:40 KimNilsson Thanks, was just about to ping you. :-) 20:31:51 Etienne KimNilsson: second = second and aye (for the records) 20:32:15 KimNilsson Etienne: awesome, and yes, that was also my understanding 20:32:25 bdmc OK, back to Item 2.8 -- Events. 20:32:30 Etienne I know, ... :-) 20:32:42 bdmc I don't expect Dirk to report on his summer. 20:33:02 KimNilsson I think he too was travelling during today's meeting. 20:33:04 bdmc Etienne, do you want to talk about Australia in their summer? 20:33:31 Etienne I sent a mail to our subscribers. Thats all I know. 20:33:59 bdmc Not planning to head South in the middle of your school year? 20:34:28 Item 2.9 -- Remote Assurance. 20:35:01 I am hoping that Eva will be free from her commitments this past spring and summer, and can spend a little time on this now. 20:35:39 Etienne You will be in contact with her? 20:35:43 bdmc I haven't tried to bother her until now, but will send her a message immediately. 20:36:47 bdmc Item 2.10 -- We have a 10 this month -- AGM 20:37:02 Yes, I know that I owe you a report, Etienne. 20:37:25 Etienne It's on the way. Members know the date, but no report until today arrived ;-) 20:37:30 KimNilsson Ok, we are heading towards a record short meeting... I now you can do it! 20:37:51 Etienne You do not owe a report to me, but to the community. 20:37:54 bdmc Yes, I was seeing that myself. I will be free for my next meeting! 20:38:17 Well, for the annual reports that you have to compile. 20:38:58 Any other news regarding the AGM. 20:39:03 ( ? ) 20:39:44 KimNilsson When will the reminder of annual payment go out? Did it already and I missed it or didn't get any, Etienne `? 20:40:07 Because it's supposed to be paid before theAGM, right? 20:40:10 Etienne You did not miss it. 20:40:21 KimNilsson good 20:40:27 bdmc Or is that perhaps a Treasurer role? 20:40:31 Etienne At the end of this month. about 5-6 weeks before the meeting. 20:40:50 Treasurer for the bill and secretary for the members register, hand in hand. 20:41:10 KimNilsson Right, and available methods now? I think I've always used PayPal before. That still a valid method? 20:41:26 bdmc I hope so. 20:41:55 Etienne We do not like paypal. You may use CHF Bank, EUR Bank, Paypal (EUR, USD, AUD), if no bank available. 20:42:12 bdmc No, we don't have banks in the US! 20:42:23 B-) 20:42:37 KimNilsson Etienne: ok, so I should wait till I get the reminder, for the compelte bank information? 20:42:58 bdmc I should see if my Canadian bank will work. 20:42:58 Etienne Or a bank that asks more tax than the amount. 20:43:56 KimNilsson Yeah, I only paid like 0.15 EUR for my latest transfer to Malta, for about 1100 EUR. So shouldn't be expensive. 20:44:07 Etienne paypal and CHF bank are available on the blog and the wiki, if you are in a hurry. 20:45:14 egal salue 20:45:23 KimNilsson Found it. https://blog.cacert.org/tag/iban/ 20:45:26 Evening egal 20:45:34 Etienne Hello Dirk, welcome to question time. 20:45:35 bdmc I have always found it crazy that the banks here don't seem to know anything about foreign exchange, or almost anything to do with money outside of the local state. 20:46:35 bdmc Greetings Dirk. We have just gone through the whole agenda, and reached Question Time. ( even though I have't actually said so ) 20:47:16 KimNilsson egal: Is there anything about the recent event Froscon you feel should be mentioned and recorded on this meeting? 20:47:28 bdmc Anybody have any questions for the Board, or the meeting at large? 20:48:16 egal: You don't need to restrict yourself to Froscon, there were other events this year, too. 20:48:24 KimNilsson I don't have any questions, only hgolding out hope for Michael mcr to pop his head in to day hi. 20:48:36 "to say Hi" 20:49:22 egal: Don't let the notion of this perhaps being the shortest meeting ever deter you from speaking... 20:49:25 ;-) 20:49:39 egal just read all your writings ... so i'm on track now ... ;-) 20:50:02 this year we had more assurances done (per person) than last froscon some years ago ... 20:50:26 there was a high interest and "thumbs up" for upcoming openid connect ... 20:51:02 and ... with the help of other stands at froscon it was possible to give everybody 100 pts (if wanted) ;-) 20:51:26 and ... august is over ... so i'll have more time again ... ;-) 20:52:05 bdmc egal: Congratulations! 20:52:14 KimNilsson Nice, thank you! 20:52:34 egal didn't have time the last weeks (during august) for CAcert ... need to catch up now (especially for ipv6-reverse-resolution) ... 20:53:35 egal eva ist still aware of the "remote assurances" stuff ... had a talk to her after business today ... (and that's part of the reason why i'm late ... as we had some discussion about it) 20:54:04 bdmc Thank you. That means that I won't send e-mail bothering her. 20:54:40 egal hopefully she'll get in contact to you next week ... ;-) 20:55:01 bdmc Anything else? I can hear Kim trying to leave. B-) 20:55:25 egal (the issue of remote authentication from CCC resulted in more thinking about doing remote assurances ... 20:55:31 KimNilsson My phone alarm just went off, telling me the CAcert meeting will soon start. :-) 20:55:31 egal ... and how to do it ...) 20:55:45 we have a voice-channel, too? ;-) 20:55:54 bdmc ( Sorry --- CCC? ) 20:56:16 egal chaos computer club ... i think i posted the link in telegram-chat some weeks ago 20:56:35 bdmc Thanks. 20:56:54 egal they found some issues when doing remote authentication for our health insurance system 20:57:06 KimNilsson egal: haha, nah, I've just been cheering everyone on as the meeting has progressed in record speed. 20:58:36 egal regarding secure-u i don't have any update ... will check bit.nl-portal, if the addresses changed for the next invoices 20:59:38 egal @etienne ... i should be able to write some reports in the next weeks ... wasn't able to prepare some in the last weeks 21:00:23 bdmc Etienne: That's a good point. When do you actually need those reports. I know that I have been late several times. 21:00:37 ( sorry, I keep missing question marks ) 21:01:12 Etienne I will @ teams and boards and so one with links and infos this week. 21:01:26 bdmc OK. 21:01:28 KimNilsson Michael says in the Telegram that he's not feeling well, and just realised he missed the meeting. 21:01:44 bdmc Anybody have anything else, or shall we call it a day? 21:01:59 egal call it a night ... ;-) 21:02:17 bdmc One of the three! 21:02:58 In that case, I shall call this meeting to a close. Our next meeting will be held here on October 6th. 21:03:17 KimNilsson Thank you and good night everyone! 21:03:21 bdmc Thank you all 21:03:31 egal which time? 21:03:34 18 UTC again? 21:03:44 Etienne 19:00 UTC (in alternance) 21:04:16 bdmc Thank you Etienne. 21:04:24 Off to my next meeting. 21:04:29 Etienne Thank you for joining 21:04:33 egal okay ... see you again next month ... or in TG ... or in jitsi ... ;-) 21:04:44 ← bdmc a quitté (Quit: leaving) 21:04:45 KimNilsson bye 21:04:45 Etienne or on @, egal! 21:04:51 good bye 21:05:15 sat Bye! 21:05:48 ← KimNilsson est parti du salon 21:07:36 → mcr1 est entré 21:08:18 mcr1 Sorry, I missed it. I have been out for 24h with a very intense migraine. It stopped raining, and the headache went away finally. I imagine it's all over now. 21:10:53 Etienne hello mcr1 21:11:11 mcr1 hi. 21:11:14 good evening. 21:11:18 Etienne the others left about 3-4 minutes ago 21:11:33 I just copied the minutes on the wiki. 21:11:40 mcr1 thank you, I'll read them. 21:11:47 Etienne I hope you feel better now.