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   1 Committee meeting - 2022-05-05 - IRC log
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   3 KimNilsson
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   5 I wanted to prepare a minutes document, but it's really horrible to copy-paste from the wiki.
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   7 20:08:29
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   9 Anyway, I have a bare-bones doc here, if that is ok. https://nextcloud.cacert.org/apps/files/?dir=/CAcert%20board/CAcert%20-%20Committee%20meetings&filei...
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  13 Etienne
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  15 Great, Frédéric, nce to see you, yu bring us the quorum.
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  17 20:09:28
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  19 FD
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  21 Hello friends!
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  25 Etienne
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  27 Brian is at the dentist just now :-(
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  29 20:09:55
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  31 KimNilsson
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  33 Hi Frederic.
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  35 20:10:44
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  37 FD
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  39 Would this allow us to have our meeting on the audio-video channel provided by Bernhard?
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  41 20:10:46
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  43 KimNilsson
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  45 Ah, I can see you accessed the doc, Etienne - so it's shared with at least the board.
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  47 20:10:58
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  49 Etienne
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  51 the agenda (updated 3 min ago): https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-05-05
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  53 20:11:37
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  55 KimNilsson
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  57 FD: since Brian isn't here you mean? Sure, Paste the link, as I don't think it's in the agnda.
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  59 20:12:36
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  61 Here's the link to the minutes again, https://nextcloud.cacert.org/apps/files/?dir=/CAcert%20board/CAcert%20-%20Committee%20meetings&filei...
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  63 20:13:06
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  65 Etienne
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  67 Please reload the agenda, I fixed the link to the minutes of April.
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  69 20:13:21
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  71 FD
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  73 Benrhard's BBB serveur doesn't answer. Let's use Jitsi: https://meet.jit.si/cacert
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  75 20:13:59
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  77 egal
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  79 https://conference2.germanywestcentral.cloudapp.azure.com/b/ber-esg-yqe-vgg
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  81 20:14:03
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  83 this one is answering
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  85 20:14:21
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  87 FD
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  89 Thank you, Dirk !
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  91 20:15:04
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  93 KimNilsson
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  95 vgg works for me too
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  97 20:16:19
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  99 FD
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 101 Let's go to vgg.
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 103 20:17:47
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 105 Etienne
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 107 Kim, will you take the chair or should I?
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 109 20:19:06
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 111 Etienne
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 113 I herby open the meeting.
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 115 20:19:24
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 117 KimNilsson
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 119 Please, thank you.
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 123 Etienne
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 125 Hello and welcome to our montly board meeting for May 2022.
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 127 20:22:35
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 129 Etienne
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 131 FD is taking minutes on NExtcloud. Thank you.
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 133 20:22:48
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 135 Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.
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 139 There was a mail from our president with a motion he asked to ad yesterday in the afternoon. I added it just befor the meeting to quick decisions#3.
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 143 Etienne
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 145 1.4. https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-04-07#Minutes
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 147 20:28:16
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 149 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 7rd of April 2022."
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 151 20:28:28
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 153 KimNilsson
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 155 Second
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 159 Etienne
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 161 aye
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 165 FD
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 167 yes
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 171 Etienne
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 173 Thank you.
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 177 Business
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 181 2.1. Quick Decisions
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 183 20:30:35
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 185 #1 is still under the way
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 189 Etienne
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 191 2. Is 18:00 UTC better than 20:00 UTC during northern daylight saving time?
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 195 FD is happy, it's good for Kim as well.
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 197 20:33:24
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 199 #3 "I motion to pay Jan 500 Euro for work that they have each done already for the OpenID Connect project." by Brian (I plan for that to be partial compensation for the work that they have done, with a bit more to come when the project is completed.)
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 201 20:35:12
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 203 Etienne
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 205 Sorry: original version: ""I motion to pay Jan 500 Euro and 250 Euro for Dirk for work that they have each done already for the OpenID Connect project."
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 209 FD
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 211 We could provide remuneration for Brian too, for the work he has done over the last few months.
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 215 Etienne
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 217 The motion came too late.
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 219 20:37:26
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 221 Etienne
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 223 (Brian sent it an 4.5.2022)
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 225 20:37:39
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 227 But we can do a 7-days-motion instead.
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 229 20:45:42
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 231 Etienne
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 233 (I am back)
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 237 Etienne
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 239 We think Brian should be included and it is too little money. FD will start a adapted 7-days-motion within the next days.
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 241 20:48:23
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 243 FD
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 245 I motion to pay Jan 2000 Euro and 1000 Euro for Dirk for work that they have each done already for the OpenID Connect project, before its kick-off meeting. I propose to pay Brian 1800 euros for the work done since the kick-off meeting.
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 247 20:51:00
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 249 KimNilsson
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 251 Kim suggests that Frederic talks with Dirk, Jan and Brian to verify the relative amount of work, so the payment is proportional.
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 255 Etienne
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 257 2.2.Quick infos
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 261 Etienne
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 263 CCA update has been initiated
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 267 Tax exemption: on the way
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 269 20:57:02
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 271 Etienne
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 273 OpenID Connect (Brian) (integration / what is done / what will be done until end of year / Board asks whether there is anything that they can do to assist)
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 277  At present, there is a need for people who are willing to edit and create appropriate documentation for various audiences. --> involve partner organisations? e.g. via mailing list (Linux Australia comes to mind, also x, y, z?)
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 281  Update
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 283 20:57:02
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 285  A message was sent to the mailing lists CAcert and CAcert Board Public, with no response at this point. That will be re-sent in a week or so, with any edits suggested at this meeting.
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 289  I would ask the Board whether I should mention payment when I repeat our call for volunteers, since there has been no response to the first message? (Brian)
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 291 21:00:51
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 293 Etienne
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 295 Egal's idea: wait until a working beta version is available.
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 297 21:03:25
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 299 Etienne
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 301 FD's idea: public presentation about state of today (milestone, 3-4 slides) as communication for the commuity.
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 303 21:06:35
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 305 Etienne
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 307 1. Public presentation life or recorded and made available to watch; outlook as well; 2. possibility "early access" if willing to documentate.
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 309 21:07:22
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 311 (cacert/cacert-de/cacert-fr/cacert-es/board public/blog)
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 313 21:08:01
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 315 2.5. Future of secureU e.V.
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 317 21:08:22
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 319 CAcert Critical Team Lead Dirk A has been designated by motion ended on 13th March 2022 Agent for the Board of CAcert, Inc. in the matter of transferring of all CAcert assets from Secure-U! to CAcert, Inc.
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 321 21:10:13
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 323 Etienne
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 325 Michael is travelling these days and seeing Mark. The transfer at B.I.T. will probably done in May 2022.
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 329 Plan B: Dirk and Frédéric will meet Mark two weeks later, if it would not work with Michael.
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 331 21:14:05
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 333 → mcr est entré
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 335 21:14:36
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 337 mcr
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 339 hello. I am here.
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 341 21:14:45
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 343 KimNilsson
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 345 Hi Michael!
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 347 21:14:52
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 349 mcr
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 351 I was distracted by a repair-person.
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 353 21:15:00
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 355 I'm really upset to still have no wiki access.
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 357 21:15:47
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 359 KimNilsson
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 361 I feel you. Today's minutes are written on Nextcloud here. https://nextcloud.cacert.org/apps/files/?dir=/CAcert%20board/CAcert%20-%20Committee%20meetings&filei...
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 363 21:17:07
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 365 KimNilsson
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 367 mcr: And as Brian isn't here, we're having the meeting in audio here. https://conference2.germanywestcentral.cloudapp.azure.com/b/ber-esg-yqe-vgg
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 369 21:17:53
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 371 We're somewhere in between 2.5 and 2.6, :-) We will go back to your section when possible.
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 375 KimNilsson
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 377 Fairly long but pleasant discussion of what is going to and what could happen during Michael's trip. :-)
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 381 Etienne
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 383 6. Background Check
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 385 21:32:54
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 387 1 Ted is happy with the initative to enlarge the number of background checkers (BGCer)
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 391 2 Ted has updated the BGC wiki page; DE, FR and CZ translations are updated as well. https://wiki.cacert.org/NewBackgroundCheck
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 395 3 BGC for Gero: Interview happend (by Ted&Etienne), report is written and reviewed and trasnfered to the inerviewied; will be sent to committee soon.
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 399 4 BGC for Peter is initated. (date searching; Interview by Ted&Egal or Ted&Jan)
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 403 5 BGC for Kim, Matthias and Sascha are initated. (address transfered to BGCer)
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 407 Etienne
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 409 2.8. "Engagement" The secretary will update the original in the wiki.
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 413 2.9. Remote Assurance (Brian)
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 417 Discussion in Policy Group is refreshed https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-policy/2022-04/msg00000.html
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 419 21:42:08
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 421 Create a remote assurance sub committee (RASC)
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 423 21:42:08
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 425 {i} Brian envisaged writing a version of the "modified" Policy paragraphs, and post that to Policy Group.
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 429  Dirk reported that Eva, in conversation, offered to work on this, but not before late June, at the earliest.
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 433 Etienne
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 435 https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-05-05#preview
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 439 Etienne
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 441 2.10. Hardware Renewal: Michael & Dirk have to talk together: what is broken, what is old, what is new.
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 445 Etienne
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 447 11. 6th OpenPGP Email Summit
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 451 Michael sent the invitation to this event on Friday, May 27 & Saturday, May 28, 2022 in Geneva (Switzerland) at the offices of Proton AG (the company behind ProtonMail and OpenPGP.js) (those interested, please ask the secretary to forward you the invitation) https://wiki.gnupg.org/OpenPGPEmailSummit202205
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 455 This is an event open for anybody involved in the development of email clients using OpenPGP for encryption, and related software. The agenda will be driven by the attendees. Anyone may propose any topic for discussion, as long as he/she is ready to lead the discussion. Is there a topic from side of CAcert if someone will attend the summit?
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 459 Etienne
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 461 3. Question Time
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 465 KimNilsson
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 467 Any questions from the audience?
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 471 KimNilsson
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 473 3.2 Closing, 3.2.1 Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting: 2. June 2022
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 477 3.2.2 Agreed on the following meeting dates: 7. July 2022, 4. Aug. 2022, 1. Sept., 6. Okt., 3. Nov. 2022 (keep date free, can be changed if necessary)
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 481 Dirk reminds that the board needs to start considering adding thoughts about the AGM in the autumn.
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 485 Etienne
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 487 The official part ended. The meeting is closed.
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