Committee meeting - 2022-05-05 - IRC log KimNilsson I wanted to prepare a minutes document, but it's really horrible to copy-paste from the wiki. 20:08:29 Anyway, I have a bare-bones doc here, if that is ok. https://nextcloud.cacert.org/apps/files/?dir=/CAcert%20board/CAcert%20-%20Committee%20meetings&filei... 20:08:32 Etienne Great, Frédéric, nce to see you, yu bring us the quorum. 20:09:28 FD Hello friends! 20:09:31 Etienne Brian is at the dentist just now :-( 20:09:55 KimNilsson Hi Frederic. 20:10:44 FD Would this allow us to have our meeting on the audio-video channel provided by Bernhard? 20:10:46 KimNilsson Ah, I can see you accessed the doc, Etienne - so it's shared with at least the board. 20:10:58 Etienne the agenda (updated 3 min ago): https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-05-05 20:11:37 KimNilsson FD: since Brian isn't here you mean? Sure, Paste the link, as I don't think it's in the agnda. 20:12:36 Here's the link to the minutes again, https://nextcloud.cacert.org/apps/files/?dir=/CAcert%20board/CAcert%20-%20Committee%20meetings&filei... 20:13:06 Etienne Please reload the agenda, I fixed the link to the minutes of April. 20:13:21 FD Benrhard's BBB serveur doesn't answer. Let's use Jitsi: https://meet.jit.si/cacert 20:13:59 egal https://conference2.germanywestcentral.cloudapp.azure.com/b/ber-esg-yqe-vgg 20:14:03 this one is answering 20:14:21 FD Thank you, Dirk ! 20:15:04 KimNilsson vgg works for me too 20:16:19 FD Let's go to vgg. 20:17:47 Etienne Kim, will you take the chair or should I? 20:19:06 Etienne I herby open the meeting. 20:19:24 KimNilsson Please, thank you. 20:19:27 Etienne Hello and welcome to our montly board meeting for May 2022. 20:22:35 Etienne FD is taking minutes on NExtcloud. Thank you. 20:22:48 Chair asks whether cacert-board-private or cacert-board maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members. 20:23:45 There was a mail from our president with a motion he asked to ad yesterday in the afternoon. I added it just befor the meeting to quick decisions#3. 20:27:38 Etienne 1.4. https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-04-07#Minutes 20:28:16 "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 7rd of April 2022." 20:28:28 KimNilsson Second 20:28:30 Etienne aye 20:29:01 FD yes 20:30:03 Etienne Thank you. 20:30:09 Business 20:30:12 2.1. Quick Decisions 20:30:35 #1 is still under the way 20:31:46 Etienne 2. Is 18:00 UTC better than 20:00 UTC during northern daylight saving time? 20:32:38 FD is happy, it's good for Kim as well. 20:33:24 #3 "I motion to pay Jan 500 Euro for work that they have each done already for the OpenID Connect project." by Brian (I plan for that to be partial compensation for the work that they have done, with a bit more to come when the project is completed.) 20:35:12 Etienne Sorry: original version: ""I motion to pay Jan 500 Euro and 250 Euro for Dirk for work that they have each done already for the OpenID Connect project." 20:35:52 FD We could provide remuneration for Brian too, for the work he has done over the last few months. 20:36:25 Etienne The motion came too late. 20:37:26 Etienne (Brian sent it an 4.5.2022) 20:37:39 But we can do a 7-days-motion instead. 20:45:42 Etienne (I am back) 20:48:07 Etienne We think Brian should be included and it is too little money. FD will start a adapted 7-days-motion within the next days. 20:48:23 FD I motion to pay Jan 2000 Euro and 1000 Euro for Dirk for work that they have each done already for the OpenID Connect project, before its kick-off meeting. I propose to pay Brian 1800 euros for the work done since the kick-off meeting. 20:51:00 KimNilsson Kim suggests that Frederic talks with Dirk, Jan and Brian to verify the relative amount of work, so the payment is proportional. 20:53:15 Etienne 2.2.Quick infos 20:55:06 Etienne CCA update has been initiated 20:55:28 Tax exemption: on the way 20:57:02 Etienne OpenID Connect (Brian) (integration / what is done / what will be done until end of year / Board asks whether there is anything that they can do to assist) 20:57:02 At present, there is a need for people who are willing to edit and create appropriate documentation for various audiences. --> involve partner organisations? e.g. via mailing list (Linux Australia comes to mind, also x, y, z?) 20:57:02 Update 20:57:02 A message was sent to the mailing lists CAcert and CAcert Board Public, with no response at this point. That will be re-sent in a week or so, with any edits suggested at this meeting. 20:57:02 I would ask the Board whether I should mention payment when I repeat our call for volunteers, since there has been no response to the first message? (Brian) 21:00:51 Etienne Egal's idea: wait until a working beta version is available. 21:03:25 Etienne FD's idea: public presentation about state of today (milestone, 3-4 slides) as communication for the commuity. 21:06:35 Etienne 1. Public presentation life or recorded and made available to watch; outlook as well; 2. possibility "early access" if willing to documentate. 21:07:22 (cacert/cacert-de/cacert-fr/cacert-es/board public/blog) 21:08:01 2.5. Future of secureU e.V. 21:08:22 CAcert Critical Team Lead Dirk A has been designated by motion ended on 13th March 2022 Agent for the Board of CAcert, Inc. in the matter of transferring of all CAcert assets from Secure-U! to CAcert, Inc. 21:10:13 Etienne Michael is travelling these days and seeing Mark. The transfer at B.I.T. will probably done in May 2022. 21:11:12 Plan B: Dirk and Frédéric will meet Mark two weeks later, if it would not work with Michael. 21:14:05 → mcr est entré 21:14:36 mcr hello. I am here. 21:14:45 KimNilsson Hi Michael! 21:14:52 mcr I was distracted by a repair-person. 21:15:00 I'm really upset to still have no wiki access. 21:15:47 KimNilsson I feel you. Today's minutes are written on Nextcloud here. https://nextcloud.cacert.org/apps/files/?dir=/CAcert%20board/CAcert%20-%20Committee%20meetings&filei... 21:17:07 KimNilsson mcr: And as Brian isn't here, we're having the meeting in audio here. https://conference2.germanywestcentral.cloudapp.azure.com/b/ber-esg-yqe-vgg 21:17:53 We're somewhere in between 2.5 and 2.6, :-) We will go back to your section when possible. 21:25:40 KimNilsson Fairly long but pleasant discussion of what is going to and what could happen during Michael's trip. :-) 21:32:51 Etienne 6. Background Check 21:32:54 1 Ted is happy with the initative to enlarge the number of background checkers (BGCer) 21:32:54 2 Ted has updated the BGC wiki page; DE, FR and CZ translations are updated as well. https://wiki.cacert.org/NewBackgroundCheck 21:32:54 3 BGC for Gero: Interview happend (by Ted&Etienne), report is written and reviewed and trasnfered to the inerviewied; will be sent to committee soon. 21:32:54 4 BGC for Peter is initated. (date searching; Interview by Ted&Egal or Ted&Jan) 21:32:54 5 BGC for Kim, Matthias and Sascha are initated. (address transfered to BGCer) 21:41:31 Etienne 2.8. "Engagement" The secretary will update the original in the wiki. 21:41:55 2.9. Remote Assurance (Brian) 21:42:08 Discussion in Policy Group is refreshed https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-policy/2022-04/msg00000.html 21:42:08 Create a remote assurance sub committee (RASC) 21:42:08 {i} Brian envisaged writing a version of the "modified" Policy paragraphs, and post that to Policy Group. 21:42:08 Dirk reported that Eva, in conversation, offered to work on this, but not before late June, at the earliest. 21:45:43 Etienne https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2022-05-05#preview 21:49:59 Etienne 2.10. Hardware Renewal: Michael & Dirk have to talk together: what is broken, what is old, what is new. 21:52:47 Etienne 11. 6th OpenPGP Email Summit 21:52:50 Michael sent the invitation to this event on Friday, May 27 & Saturday, May 28, 2022 in Geneva (Switzerland) at the offices of Proton AG (the company behind ProtonMail and OpenPGP.js) (those interested, please ask the secretary to forward you the invitation) https://wiki.gnupg.org/OpenPGPEmailSummit202205 21:52:50 This is an event open for anybody involved in the development of email clients using OpenPGP for encryption, and related software. The agenda will be driven by the attendees. Anyone may propose any topic for discussion, as long as he/she is ready to lead the discussion. Is there a topic from side of CAcert if someone will attend the summit? 21:57:36 Etienne 3. Question Time 22:05:43 KimNilsson Any questions from the audience? 22:09:59 KimNilsson 3.2 Closing, 3.2.1 Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting: 2. June 2022 22:10:16 3.2.2 Agreed on the following meeting dates: 7. July 2022, 4. Aug. 2022, 1. Sept., 6. Okt., 3. Nov. 2022 (keep date free, can be changed if necessary) 22:10:24 Dirk reminds that the board needs to start considering adding thoughts about the AGM in the autumn. 22:13:09 Etienne The official part ended. The meeting is closed.