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= Committee Meeting 2021-11-04 (2021-11-05 in Australia) =
The meeting will take place at [[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Board+Meeting&iso=2021-11-04T20:00:00|20:00 UTC]] in the IRC channel '''#board-meeting''' on the [[https://irc.cacert.org/#board-meeting|CAcert IRC network]].
Northern Winter: 08:00 PM GMT = 21:00 CET = 15:00 New York EST = 07:00 Australia AEDT<
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Northern Summer: 08:00 PM GMT = '''22:00 CEST''' = 16:00 New York EDT = 06:00 Australia AEST
Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee members: the committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section.
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During the meeting, the following two additional channels are open to all members: (LINK WILL BE ADJUSTED BEFORE THE MEETING)
* [[https://nextcloud.cacert.org/s/k2zQANbBJys3nfY|Live temporary notepad to keep track of the minutes]] - Please contribute to writing.
* [[https://conference.germanywestcentral.cloudapp.azure.com/b/ber-n8r-r5b-a1v|Audio-video channel, in parallel to the classical IRC channel]] - Please join us there.
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== Agenda ==
1. Preliminaries
1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting
1. Who is making minutes? ([[https://docs.google.com/document/d/156JZeyHjU9M91O8pIUwdUo6u-FiBlhJJVo4Fcq7QM6U/|Writing minutes in real time]])
1. Is there a time limit? Who is time keeper?
1. Chair asks whether [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private|cacert-board-private]] or [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board|cacert-board]] maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members.
1. Accept minutes from [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2021-10-07#Minutes|07.10.2021]] "I move to accept the minutes of the committee meeting of 7th Oct 2021."
1. Important points (cannot wait for the new committee in December)
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1. In view of the AGM, 13. Nov 2021
1. see the timeline here: https://wiki.cacert.org/AGM/Next
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1. What the new committee should do (our suggestions)
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1. Question Time
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1. Closing
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## 1. Secretary's Office (Ongoing subjects)
## 1. CCA change. information of community -- Draft [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2021-02/msg00006.html|sent to board on 27-02-2021]]; '''accept the new paragraph, sent recently by e-Mail''' (secretary, critical / as the signer is running again, this topic is in work again. goal: september)
## 1. register statutes changes at OFT (started after AGM): details with OFT OK, form prepared, waiting for legal confirmation. (secretary / to skip, still pending, legal confirmation takes more time than expected - secretary recontacted barrister. Time limit: 31.8.2021. Will see the barrister after 12.10.2021 (tomorrow))
## 1. Tax excemption: Secretary is preparing paperwork for authorithies of Republic of Geneva.
## 1. Infrastructure
## 1. Signer (Info; ideas? strategy? information?) (Dirk, Etienne)
## We need volunteers, who are able to review code (not only PHP or Perl, but newer languages like GO, too). And we need volunteers, who are able to run tests as soon as a new signer software is written and installed on our test-systems.
## 1. Nextcloud (Sascha, Frederic)
## What is up and running, what remains to be deployed.
## 1. New requirements, software and systems (JanDD)
## My hope is that we can get a more professionally maintained infrastructure (critical and non-critical), functioning software development and assessment teams and proper requirements engineering, before we put more work on the shoulders of our teams (and yes supporting more fresh people is a burden that keeps us from getting our important stuff done in the mentioned areas).
## 1. Background Check:
## 1. (no candidates)
## To be done: Peter N., Gero T., Mathias F.
1. AGM 13. Nov 2021 (no information at the moment, more will follow during September by the Secretary)
1. 20:00 GMT = Geneva 21 h 00 = Sydney 07 h 00 DST = Greenwich (London) 20 h 00 = New York 15 h 00
1. Even if the AGM will be held online, you may want to visit Geneva (or for your business trips or some "stay-at-home-holidays"), using this link: http://www.booking.com/index.html?aid=346253
1. see the timeline here: https://wiki.cacert.org/AGM/Next
## 1. Staffing the teams (Frederic)
## 1. Strategy and short term actions
## 1. Finance team
## 1. Info ([[https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2021-01-07/FinancialTeam|details here]] (Michael)
## 1. Software Team
## 1. '''Issue [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1502|1502]]: Adapt the UI at CAcert.org to deal with the "keygen" feature having been removed in browsers''' (who is in charge?)
## 1. Issue [[https://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1482|1482]]: Limit validity period of new HTTPS certificates to one year
## 1. Issue [[http://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1444|1444]]: PHP - Brian
## 1. '''Issue [[http://bugs.cacert.org/view.php?id=1417|1417]]: Keygen / new CSR software - Bernhard'''
1. Organisation Assurance
1. How to relaunch OrgA? / Comment relancer OrgA? (Guy)
## 1. Grant applications
## 1. Protopype Fund https://prototypefund.de/en/ ([[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-committee-archive/2021-05/msg00005.html|mail to SW]] Board only)
## 1. The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany, funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF). This is for residents of Germany only. We could create a group of people that work on a project for CAcert (with all support of the others in the background). It runs for two more years, every 6 month.
## 1. Infra does not see any acute need at the moment, and does not have the capacity to provide qualified support.
## 1. There are some ideas for software, but in infra's view there is still a lot of conceptual and preparatory work missing. What Infra could imagine is financing people to carry out a requirements analysis and write a requirements and test specification. This could then be used as a basis for a new implementation of the CAcert software (WebDB, Signer and perhaps other things like CATS). But these are just a few ideas of JanDD and he cannot currently recommend any people who would be suitable for this. Potential candidates would have to deal intensively with the existing software on the one hand and with the underlying policies on the other, and would have to identify a lot of missing information, ask for it and make assumptions for discussion. This requires very good analytical and communication skills and a high level of stamina.
## 1. Blockchain
## 1. see here: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas#Blockchain (waiting for answer from IanG)
1.#3 Question Time
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1. I notice that the database is polluted with assurers that are no longer responding. I think it would be useful if once a year all the assurers that did not assure that year are addressed with the question whether they still want to stay listed. (ctjacobs, NL)
It is annoying when assurers do not respond. On the other hand, one should ask: why do they no longer answer? Did they say goodbye but not log off? Or are they waiting for better times and just pretending to be asleep until then? Or was now simply the wrong moment, a bad time? (secretary)
1. ''"Question One."'' added by Your Name ''Comment: Replace "Question One" by your Question and add your name''
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1. Closing
1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting: (30. Sept or) 4. Nov 2021
1. Following meetings: 4. Nov, AGM 13.11.2021
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== Logfile ==
[[attachment:board_meeting_2021-11-04.txt|Logfile from meeting 2021-11-04]]
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== Minutes ==
=== Present ===
==== Members of the Committee: ====
Committee meeting - 2021-11-04 - Participants
'''Members of the Committee:'''
Present, by alphabetical order
Brian McCullough
Etienne Ruedin
Frédéric Dumas
Michael Richardson
Peter Nunn
'''Absent or silent, by alphabetical order'''
Guy Scharinger
Sascha Ternes
'''Members of the CAcert community and other guests'''
Having been active during the meeting, by alphabetical order
Mitch Maifeld
== Committee meeting - 2021-11-04 ==
Our chair, Brian McCullough, opened the meeting at 20:01 UTC.
=== Acceptance of minutes ===
Motion to accept minutes from 07.10.2021
Votes: 4 Ayes, no Naye, no Abstain
=== Preamble ===
Peter explained that he won't join CAcert's committee meeting again next year. He wanted to thank the present committee members for all of their time and friendship over the past few years, and he hoped that CAcert continues to move forward, under Brian's direction into the future.
Nominations to the 2021-2022 committee
The following members were nominated to sit at the next committee:
Brian McCullough; nominated by Peter Nunn; seconded by Frédéric Dumas
Dirk Astrath, nominated by Frédéric Dumas
Etienne Ruedin; nominated by Peter Nunn; seconded by Brian McCullough
Frédéric Dumas; nominated by Peter Nunn; seconded by Brian McCullough
Michael Richardson; nominated by Brian McCullough; seconded by Frédéric Dumas
Sascha Ternes; nominated by Brian McCullough, second by Etienne Ruedin
Wacław Schiller; nominated by Frederic, second by Etienne Ruedin
The committee is made of seven members. If over seven members are nominated, a vote shall determine who will be chosen for the 2021-2022 committee; the vote takes place during the Annual General Assembly of the 13th of November, 2021.
=== Unresponsive and Remote Assurers ===
Some of our Assurers do not respond to CAcert communications or to queries from members wishing to be assured. Should CAcert make an attempt to drop these Assurers? It would be risky as removing these people could shrink dramatically.
Brian recalls that the right place for talking about possibly adding remote assurance (for instance, by video link) could be the Policies group's mailing-list, as it is open to everybody.
=== Possible resolution at the coming AGM ===
Michael proposed to present a resolution at the AGM, regarding the possible remote assurance procedure, "*as a temporary measure* (during these "unprecedented times") , and with fewer assurer points involved."
Etienne objected that "This is IMHO not a topic for the AGM, but for the board. The AGM deals with budget, last year's finances, elections and statutes. It can be discussed, but then it goes to board or policy group."
Etienne lists possible things to be considered by the 2021-2022 committee:
* push OrgA (Guy)
* expand PR (Alex cannot do this, wants to hand over)
* software testing (very important)
* support SecureU (find an active board member for them in Germany)
* expand background check
* simplify the certificate creation (this enables the start of various projects from the pipeline)
Brian considers that are important:
* remote assurance, if accepted by the community;
* software development and testing, i.e. delivering the OpenID Connect integration, for which CAcert is founded by the RIPE NCC.
Frederic reminds that we should open a euro account at the GKB, to avoid forced conversions between currencies.
Our chair, Brian McCullough, ended the meeting at 21:40 UTC.
=== Next meeting ===
The planning of future meetings is left to the next committee to be elected.
[[attachment:board_meeting_2021-11-04.txt|Logfile from meeting 2021-11-04]]
==== Committee next meeting date ====
The next meeting date will be announced by the new committee after the AGM.
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=== Motions ===
* https://motion.cacert.org/motions/m20210806.1
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=== Actions ===
|| ''Who'' || ''Status'' || ''Action'' ||
|| Minutemaker || wip || prepare Agenda and Minutes for the next meeting ||
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