1 21:05:01
   2 bdmc
   3 pnunn: Darn, one too many commas.  Oh, well. 
   4 21:05:09
   5 Good evening Etienne. 
   6 21:05:16
   7 Any you make four. 
   8 21:05:25
   9 ( any => And ) 
  10 21:05:29
  11 Etienne
  12 Hello, sorry for being late. 
  13 21:05:49
  14 bdmc
  15 No problem, shall we start, or see if anybody else will join us? 
  16 21:05:49
  17 → Treasurer has joined 
  18 21:05:54
  19 bdmc
  20 Five! 
  21 21:06:12
  22 FD
  23 Good evening Etienne, Frédéric ! 
  24 21:06:15
  25 bdmc
  26 Etienne: At least you are here, unlike me last meeting. 
  27 21:06:21
  28 FD
  29 Nice to see you. 
  30 21:06:30
  31 Treasurer
  32 Bonsoir ! 
  33 21:07:10
  34 Etienne
  35 I went next door 45 min ago to ask *one* question.... and was surprised, when the church bell rang 9x.... 
  36 21:07:11
  37 bdmc
  38 Shall we wait another three minutes, so that the Minutes come out even? 
  39 21:08:10
  40 Etienne: Just for the record, would you please post the address of tonight's Agenda? 
  41 21:08:57
  42 Etienne
  43 https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-11-21 
  44 21:10:10
  45 bdmc
  46 I hereby call this meeting of the Board of CAcert, Inc. at 20:10 UTC, 21st November 2019 
  47 21:10:19
  48 to order! 
  49 21:10:43
  50 Etienne: Do you want someone else to handle Minutes? 
  51 21:11:21
  52 Etienne
  53 Let's do it as usual, we can change for the comming year 19/20. 
  54 21:11:42
  55 bdmc
  56 I have a deadline of approximately 21:45 UTC tonight. 
  57 21:11:52
  58 pnunn
  59 Hmm.. I can't open those minutes in firefox. It doesn't like my cert.. I'll have to look at that later. 
  60 21:12:01
  61 bdmc
  62 Anybody else? 
  63 21:12:03
  64 pnunn
  65 I have about an hour. 
  66 21:12:20
  67 bdmc
  68 punn: That's aggravating.  I had that problem, too, a month or so ago. 
  69 21:13:36
  70 Etienne
  71 pnunn, you have an irc copy for now. Anyone else need a copy on irc? 
  72 21:14:00
  73 bdmc
  74 I was just skimming over the minutes from 7 November.  Can I hear a motion to accept? 
  75 21:14:07
  76 pnunn
  77 Thanks. 
  78 21:14:26
  79 I move a motion to accept the minutes. 
  80 21:14:33
  81 Etienne
  82 I second 
  83 21:15:16
  84 any aye 
  85 21:15:16
  86 bdmc
  87 All in favour? 
  88 21:15:22
  89 Abs 
  90 21:15:25
  91 pnunn
  92 aye. 
  93 21:15:28
  94 FD
  95 Abs too 
  96 21:15:38
  97 Treasurer
  98 aye 
  99 21:15:46
 100 bdmc
 101 Thank you all. 
 102 21:15:56
 103 Any messages that we need to bring forward? 
 104 21:17:19
 105 bdmc
 106 OK.  Moving on to the main part of the Agenda.  Unless I hear any objections, I will do it in numerical order. 
 107 21:17:32
 108 Item 2.1.1 New Members.  Any? 
 109 21:17:48
 110 Etienne
 111 no 
 112 21:18:15
 113 bdmc
 114 Item 2.1.2 et al -- Annual General Meeting 
 115 21:18:18
 116 Discussion? 
 117 21:19:11
 118 egal
 119 do i need to pay my members fee? 
 120 21:19:17
 121 didn't receive an email about it ... ;-( 
 122 21:19:34
 123 bdmc
 124 I've been out of touch with our new volunteers and membership applicants since early November. 
 125 21:19:57
 126 egal: I agree.  That should have been out by now, since the meeting is one week away. 
 127 21:20:29
 128 Treasurer
 129 who is egal? 
 130 21:20:56
 131 FD
 132 egal equals Dirk 
 133 21:21:30
 134 Etienne
 135 If someone can tell me names/adresses for board or sub commitee members, I will contact them (this week I have some extra shifts until saturday evening, so very few time) 
 136 21:22:04
 137 bdmc
 138 Does that have to do with Dirk's question about membership fees? 
 139 21:22:25
 140 Etienne
 141 no, with bdmc remark about volunteers 
 142 21:22:26
 143 Treasurer
 144 I don't see any membership fees from Dirk, as far as I know 
 145 21:23:02
 146 egal
 147 in the past eva paid my membership fees as i don't have paypal ... 
 148 21:23:23
 149 bdmc
 150 Every member of CAcert, Inc. should receive a membership statement or invoice each year. 
 151 21:23:24
 152 Etienne
 153 Treasurer, all members with no membership fee paid should be contactet until 08 november. 
 154 21:23:57
 155 see https://wiki.cacert.org/AGM/Next#Administration 
 156 21:25:12
 157 Treasurer
 158 Since some of us have ordered yearly paiements occuring until mid-november in Paypal, and the members list is now by hand, I have some difficulties to have a clear view 
 159 21:26:13
 160 Treasurer
 161 I can tell who paid, and it is more difficult to digg in whom has to 
 162 21:26:55
 163 bdmc
 164 I would suggest that "Membership Management" be one of the tasks that the "Finance Department" be assigned.  ( That Finance Department being all of the volunteers for financial or accounting that we received. We can talk about "ways and means." ) 
 165 21:27:09
 166 Treasurer
 167 of course 
 168 21:27:23
 169 Etienne
 170 Treasurer, can you tell me (not here, but at eruedin@cacert.org) who has paid, and I will cross check with the members list and you answer who has not paid. 
 171 21:27:30
 172 bdmc
 173 I agree that it seems to be a large task for the "Treasurer" alone. 
 174 21:27:47
 175 ( It has been for years. ) 
 176 21:27:47
 177 Etienne
 178 maybe, you Treasurer, send me a scan of the hand made list. 
 179 21:28:05
 180 Treasurer
 181 I guess I sent you a similar request last week 
 182 21:28:39
 183 "hand made" mean Excel sheet, at the opposite of an ERP automated one 
 184 21:29:06
 185 Etienne
 186 Excel is also good ;-) 
 187 21:29:10
 188 Treasurer
 189 Etienne I will arrange myself with you after the meeting 
 190 21:29:27
 191 bdmc
 192 Treasurer: Somewhat off topic, how many rows do you have in that spreadsheet? 
 193 21:31:10
 194 bdmc
 195 As far as Reports, Etienne should have noticed that I have started working on my report and will have it done prior to the meeting.  Are there others that you don't know about, yet? 
 196 21:31:23
 197 Treasurer
 198 130 for members, most of them being members from 2012 who quit 
 199 21:31:39
 200 bdmc
 201 Treasurer: Thank you. 
 202 21:32:13
 203 egal
 204 if i need to pay ... please tell me early enough so in can find somebody with paypal, who can send the money in time ... thank you ... ;-) 
 205 21:33:16
 206 bdmc
 207 egal: I wonder whether something might be done with a payment to secure-u or something else that you do have access to. 
 208 21:34:19
 209 Treasurer
 210 For the board, I am quite lost between the names of the current members, their aliases, and whom should pay 
 211 21:34:24
 212 bdmc
 213 Looking at section 2.1.2.1.1 -- I would like to suggest that we have that discussion off-line, but we do not seem to do well with e-mail. 
 214 21:34:24
 215 egal
 216 some time ago the secure-u treasurer told me, that secure-u can collect donations for CAcert, but not membership fees ... 
 217 21:34:28
 218 Etienne
 219 bdmc, membership fees cannot be paid with secure-U, but in 2020 with CAcert's bank account (coming soon). 
 220 21:35:00
 221 meens CAcert's European bank account. 
 222 21:35:25
 223 bdmc
 224 Yes, I understood, thanks. 
 225 21:35:47
 226 Treasurer
 227 By the way, Secure-U is an issue for my financial annual report, since I don't know what we receive in this account. 
 228 21:36:09
 229 bdmc
 230 Yes, I have been reading about that for a few weeks. 
 231 21:36:41
 232 Do we want to talk about this any more, or move on?  Peter has approximately 20 minutes. 
 233 21:37:24
 234 Treasurer
 235 I know enough from Paypal, which I have an access at will, and Westpac, kindly provided some weeks ago (by Peter, if I remember) 
 236 21:37:45
 237 One minute for treasurers volunteer 
 238 21:38:33
 239 I send requests to move on with the volunteers and 3 of them really answered. 
 240 21:38:36
 241 egal
 242 @treasurer: secure-u receives donations for CAcert, which will reduce upcoming invoices or expenses for CAcert ... so it's nothing you have to take care in your financial report ... 
 243 21:38:58
 244 Treasurer
 245 ok 
 246 21:39:33
 247 Etienne
 248 So, I suggest to create a financial team or subcommittee with them. 
 249 21:39:41
 250 egal
 251 (but we (secure-u) should have the amount of donations for CAcert by hand so CAcert is well-informed on AGM) 
 252 21:39:45
 253 FD
 254 Dirk, and what happens in case the donations are higher than the amount of the invoices? 
 255 21:39:58
 256 Treasurer
 257 Following volunteers, I am currently discussing with a French, a British and a Belgium volunteers, all of them pretty good 
 258 21:40:17
 259 egal
 260 some meetings ago i told etienne the amount of donations 
 261 21:40:53
 262 @fd: we keep it for the next invoices ... (if not otherwise requested by CAcert ... ;-) ) 
 263 21:41:07
 264 Treasurer
 265 The amount of donations isn't of concern to date, because they happened after the end of the fiscal year, don't they? 
 266 21:41:53
 267 egal
 268 it makes no sense to send it to CAcert ... and get it back when invoices are paid (this only causes transaction fees) 
 269 21:42:24
 270 FD
 271 @Dirk, fine. However, I guess that Frederic (our treasurer) should receive a statement of the cumulated amount of donations received by Secure-U, because that money actually exists. 
 272 21:43:11
 273 bdmc
 274 Treasurer and all: My proposal, along with some other people, was to keep those volunteers as a Finance Committee, along with an elected Treasurer.  They would do the bulk of the work, and the Treasurer would represent that work to the Board. 
 275 21:44:15
 276 Treasurer
 277 @FD On an accounting an legal point of view, I would prefer, indeed 
 278 21:44:22
 279 FD
 280 @Dirk: He (our treasurer) would then do the calculation (received donations at Secure-U - cost of Secure-U's invoices) to let us know what is the remaining amount. 
 281 21:45:44
 282 → dops has joined 
 283 21:45:53
 284 egal
 285 @fd: on one of the last invoices there was a reducton: all BIT-invoices listed and a final line with reduction ... 
 286 21:46:03
 287 bdmc
 288 Welcome Gero.  We are discussing Finance. 
 289 21:46:17
 290 dops
 291 Hi all 
 292 21:46:33
 293 FD
 294 Good evening, Gero! 
 295 21:46:49
 296 bdmc
 297 I have one hour. 
 298 21:47:09
 299 egal
 300 invoice 2018-1 
 301 21:47:18
 302 Treasurer
 303 @egal Yes, but I made it appear in the accounting. 
 304 21:48:59
 305 Treasurer
 306 paiement in progress today or tomorrow. I am learning the correct procedure to avoid high hidden and surprising fees catched by Paypal 
 307 21:49:37
 308 FD
 309 @Fred: thumb up! 
 310 21:50:44
 311 egal
 312 @treasurer: as there had been no fees secure-u had to pay in the past i we need to bill the paypal transaction-fees inn the next invoice 
 313 21:51:11
 314 tfor the last payments secure-u had to pay transaction fees 
 315 21:51:38
 316 FD
 317 we remember about what you explained, yes. 
 318 21:52:35
 319 Treasurer
 320 nothing more useful to write for finance now 
 321 21:53:26
 322 bdmc
 323 Since we have Dirk here, perhaps we can move on to Item 2.2.1.  Dirk, do you have anything further to report about the new Critical Team?  How are they doing? 
 324 21:55:02
 325 bdmc
 326 egal:  ?? 
 327 21:55:50
 328 egal
 329 norbert and i met wytze at BIT at the beginning of this month 
 330 21:56:35
 331 FD
 332 @Dirk: we read about it: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-11-07#Minutes 
 333 21:57:05
 334 bdmc
 335 egal: OK, moving on to Arbitration.  Have you been able to rouse anyone? 
 336 21:57:20
 337 egal
 338 part of the time mendel and mark were present ... 
 339 21:57:40
 340 up to now all accesses should work now (need to test it this weekend) 
 341 21:58:25
 342 some of the accesses did not work at the beginning, but that's normal when doing a handover ... 
 343 21:58:37
 344 bdmc
 345 egal: yes, one step at a time. 
 346 21:59:09
 347 egal
 348 bas and stefan (access engineers) had been on-site at BIT for a short time to access the signer/hardware 
 349 22:01:54
 350 bdmc
 351 OK.  I am at a loss for the next Agenda item.  Would somebody like to request one? 
 352 22:02:45
 353 Etienne
 354 2.1.2.1. next board 
 355 22:02:57
 356 bdmc
 357 Certainly. 
 358 22:02:57
 359 FD
 360 May we come back to 2.1.2.1.1É 
 361 22:03:23
 362 bdmc
 363 Yes, I tried earlier, so let's give it a go. 
 364 22:03:30
 365 Etienne
 366 There are some nominations. 
 367 22:03:37
 368 bdmc
 369 Item 2.1.2.1.1 
 370 22:04:28
 371 We should have asked for nominations before this.  We will have to depend on nominatations from the floor during the meeting.  Do we have anybody that we want to "volunteer?" 
 372 22:05:13
 373 Remember that, until the SGM, we need to have our required Australian members. 
 374 22:05:14
 375 pnunn
 376 We have 4 nominations already bdmc. 
 377 22:05:19
 378 Etienne
 379 Nominations can be sent until 22-11-2019. 
 380 22:05:39
 381 bdmc
 382 pnunn:  Thank you.  I hadn't seen them. 
 383 22:06:00
 384 Etienne
 385 3 Australians, including one of NSW. 
 386 22:06:12
 387 FD
 388 I am volunteer to contact people having been wanting to be members/members of the board, and ask if they confirm their attendance at the AGM, should you think it is useful to do so. 
 389 22:06:17
 390 bdmc
 391 Etienne:  Have we made a public call for nominations?  I guess that I have been missing meail. 
 392 22:06:26
 393 ( meail => mail ) 
 394 22:06:59
 395 FD: Remember that they need to be paid members at the AGM to participate. 
 396 22:07:46
 397 FD
 398 @Brian: to vote yes; to participate, paid membership is not required, I guess. 
 399 22:08:13
 400 bdmc
 401 To be elected, yes.  To attend and observe, no. 
 402 22:08:27
 403 Etienne
 404 But if they joined in this financial year, it is unclear, as membership fees have to be paid until the end of the financial year ;-) The secretary is using usually  relaxed rules. 
 405 22:09:37
 406 Etienne
 407 We have to be carefull for 3 AUS / 1 NSW. But for teams and sub committees, there are no restricitions and for nominations from the floor. 
 408 22:09:38
 409 bdmc
 410 It has been a while since I read the rule, but don't you have to be paid BEFORE the AGM, since that is part of the Fiscal Year ending in June? 
 411 22:09:46
 412 FD
 413 Peter, may you recall me what is the difference between candidates to the board having been "nominated", and the other type of candidates? 
 414 22:10:29
 415 bdmc
 416 FD: "other type of candidates?" 
 417 22:10:40
 418 FD
 419 I mean, "non nominated". 
 420 22:10:40
 421 Etienne
 422 FD, if nominations > or = places at the committee, you can elect only nominated people. 
 423 22:11:02
 424 pnunn
 425 As far as I'm aware @FD there are no other types. It just means the ones nominated have been put up for election already and have (soon) accepted the nominations. 
 426 22:11:15
 427 Etienne
 428 if number of nominees < places at the committee, the AGM can nominate directly for the remaining places. 
 429 22:11:39
 430 bdmc
 431 Or "persuade" 
 432 22:12:11
 433 FD
 434 You mean that the AGM is empowered to choose only 3 members of the committee over 7 seats, because four of them have been already "nominated"? 
 435 22:13:05
 436 bdmc
 437 Oh, no.  The only people who may be elected are those how have been nominated, and have accepted those nominations.  The nominations may come before the beginning of the AGM, or during the AGM. 
 438 22:13:27
 439 ( darn!  those how have => those who have ) 
 440 22:14:03
 441 pnunn
 442 Not quite. It means that currently 4 have been nominated for the commitee (more will be hopefully nominated hopefully before the meeting). If all positions are filled its an easy process for the meeting. 
 443 22:14:15
 444 Etienne
 445 Exactly, bdmc, but if there are enough nominations until the dead line, no more are accepted after the dead line. 
 446 22:15:02
 447 But if there are 6 nomintations for 7 places, the floor may nominated 7 other and vote for them. 
 448 22:15:29
 449 bdmc
 450 pnunn: Only if there are exactly the number of candidates as there are positions.   If there are more candidates, a vote will be held, of course. 
 451 22:15:40
 452 pnunn
 453 Correct. 
 454 22:16:16
 455 So if nominations < positions, the AGM can appoint/perswade on the day. If nominations 
 456 22:16:47
 457 = positions all get on, if nominations > positions there will need to be a vote. 
 458 22:17:07
 459 bdmc
 460 So, anyway, as we have been discussing, we currently have four candidates -- does that include any of us?   We can accept nominations until midnight ( what time zone? ) tomorrow. 
 461 22:17:36
 462 FD
 463 GMT 
 464 22:18:26
 465 egal
 466 UTC 
 467 22:18:31
 468 bdmc
 469 ? 
 470 22:18:33
 471 B-) 
 472 22:18:49
 473 pnunn
 474 FD? 
 475 22:19:01
 476 FD
 477 We have 3 candidates from Australia, one of them being located in NSW. Not 4 
 478 22:19:14
 479 Am I right? 
 480 22:19:34
 481 bdmc
 482 Peter said four earlier.  Then someone said that there were some Australians. 
 483 22:19:58
 484 pnunn
 485 I think I'm the only ozzie nominated at the moment. 
 486 22:20:04
 487 Etienne
 488 No, only 1 australian nomination for the moment 
 489 22:20:53
 490 pnunn
 491 and not in NSW unfortunately. 
 492 22:21:05
 493 bdmc
 494 And three other people.  As I asked, does that include any of us, or just Peter? 
 495 22:21:05
 496 pnunn
 497 (or fortunately, depending on your point of view). 
 498 22:21:20
 499 FD
 500 Etienne, did not you say : "3 Australians, including one of NSW" earlier ? 
 501 22:21:44
 502 Just trying to understand whom are we talking about. 
 503 22:22:34
 504 pnunn
 505 The nominations are yourself Brian, Etienne, Frédéric Grither and myself if that's what your asking. 
 506 22:22:45
 507 FD
 508 Thank you. 
 509 22:22:47
 510 Etienne
 511 Sorry, that was not clear. We have to think that we need 1 NSW & 2 other AUS. 
 512 22:23:02
 513 pnunn
 514 Although some need nominated by and seconds yet. 
 515 22:23:58
 516 bdmc
 517 pnunn: Thank you. 
 518 22:24:49
 519 pnunn
 520 To be clear, you are fully nominated Brian, Etienne and Frederic need seconders and I need a nominator. 
 521 22:25:00
 522 Etienne
 523 We have Ross from Australia. For NSW, I have an idea (but only from the floor, nor for nomination today) 
 524 22:25:20
 525 FD
 526 @Peter, @Frederic: I though you wanted to resign from the Committee, according to what you wrote earlier in the year. Still wanting to join the band wagon? ;-) 
 527 22:25:33
 528 egal
 529 i nominate peter ... and second etienne and frederic 
 530 22:25:47
 531 (do i need to write this in a mail?) 
 532 22:26:11
 533 pnunn
 534 @FD that was indeed the case, however, my situation has changed somewhat recently employment wise :( so I can stay on and see what happens. 
 535 22:26:14
 536 bdmc
 537 To be clear, are we nominating "Treasurer" Frederic, or FD? 
 538 22:26:28
 539 pnunn
 540 That is Treasurer. 
 541 22:26:39
 542 We need to nominate FD if that is acceptable. 
 543 22:26:59
 544 bdmc
 545 OK.  I was under the impression that he was resigning, not to return.   Thanks, 
 546 22:27:16
 547 I would certainly like to nominate Frederic ( FD ) for the Board. 
 548 22:27:54
 549 And, like egal, I would like to confirm that this is the correct forum, or should I write a note to "secretary at cacert?" 
 550 22:27:55
 551 Etienne
 552 The resigning Peter is Peter M from NSW, nut Peter N. 
 553 22:28:09
 554 FD
 555 Fine. 
 556 22:28:16
 557 bdmc
 558 Etienne: I was talking about Frederic G. 
 559 22:28:36
 560 pnunn
 561 It was Peter N too at one point Etienne... but not now. 
 562 22:28:36
 563 Etienne
 564 I read faster than I can write... 
 565 22:28:38
 566 Treasurer
 567 @FD yes, I would like to resign as soon as possible, but stay where it is necessary (board, for instance), and to pass proporly knowledge and procedures to my successor(s) 
 568 22:28:54
 569 FD
 570 Good. 
 571 22:29:25
 572 bdmc
 573 Treasurer:  Thank you.  That would help a lot, particularly if we can form the "Finance Department ( or Committee )" to assist you with the work. 
 574 22:29:48
 575 pnunn
 576 I'm sorry folks, but I need to go. I will leave this logged in to capture though. If I can I'll give Brian my proxy for any votes that need to happen. 
 577 22:30:04
 578 Treasurer
 579 bye 
 580 22:30:14
 581 FD
 582 Have a nice day Peter. 
 583 22:30:14
 584 bdmc
 585 Thank you, Peter.  However, I have a 15 minute deadline, myself. 
 586 22:30:36
 587 pnunn
 588 OK. Enjoy 
 589 22:30:55
 590 FD
 591 Nice to have you onboard in 2020, Peter. 
 592 22:31:09
 593 Etienne
 594 The secretary is reading and recording. That is OK. 
 595 22:31:35
 596 bdmc
 597 Etienne: OK< back to procedures.  Can we make nominations here, or do we need to formally send them to the Secretary? 
 598 22:34:11
 599 Etienne
 600 I said, that I am recording now, as you are present, as I did last meeting. When I can read you "face to face", this looks for me as real as a CARSed letter. 
 601 22:35:09
 602 bdmc
 603 OK, so in that case I will discard the message that I was writing. 
 604 22:35:52
 605 I hereby nominate or second the nomination of: Etienne, Frederic D., Frederic G. and Peter N. 
 606 22:36:23
 607 egal
 608 I hereby nominate or second the nomination of: Etienne, Frederic D., Frederic G. and Peter N. 
 609 22:36:24
 610 bdmc
 611 I won't nominate Dirk, since he does so much for us already! 
 612 22:36:36
 613 egal
 614 (hopefully bdmc had no copyright ... ;-) ) 
 615 22:36:46
 616 bdmc
 617 B-) 
 618 22:37:14
 619 FD
 620 Should we second the motion? 
 621 22:37:44
 622 bdmc
 623 I don't know of any motion since we accepted the minuates of the previous meeting. 
 624 22:38:05
 625 I should also, just to finish the process, accept my nomination. 
 626 22:38:33
 627 FD
 628 I thought the "nomination" was a "motion" waiting for a vote. Sorry for being poor at understanding how it works. 
 629 22:39:27
 630 bdmc
 631 No, it is a statement by one ( or more ) members of CAcert, Inc. saying that they wish someone to be considered for election. 
 632 22:39:31
 633 Etienne
 634 FD, we will vote about this nominations in 9 days. 
 635 22:39:52
 636 we = alle Inc members paid up. 
 637 22:39:57
 638 FD
 639 Fine. Thank you. 
 640 22:40:29
 641 Treasurer
 642 Thank you either. 
 643 22:40:41
 644 bdmc
 645 Well, it is coming near to, not quite yet, time for me to drop out. 
 646 22:41:07
 647 Are there any issues, Agenda items, that you want me to bring up, or leave it for Etienne? 
 648 22:41:31
 649 FD
 650 Thank you Brian for you lead during the meeting. We may decide this is time for us to leave too. 
 651 22:42:10
 652 bdmc
 653 Well, before we leave, shall we decide on the date of the next meeting?   B-) 
 654 22:42:16
 655 Etienne
 656 Please read the list I sent by mail: things to do before the meeting! Thank you! 
 657 22:42:40
 658 bdmc
 659 Any questions for the Board? 
 660 22:42:49
 661 Etienne
 662 Well, we can made a proposition for hte next committee. 
 663 22:43:14
 664 Questions: 
 665 22:43:16
 666 Is it true that the solution of the PHP problem is already on the test server for review? (asked in the meeting of 07-11-2019) 
 667 22:43:16
 668 On my way home on the bus today, I was wondering whether there might not be a way to issue the certificate with an addon for Firefox and Chrome. Who should be asked? (asked in the meeting of 07-11-2019) 
 669 22:43:16
 670 What went wrong with our Paypal link on the blog? added by Frederic D. 
 671 22:43:59
 672 FD
 673 The Paypal question was going to be solved by Gero, if I remember right. 
 674 22:44:08
 675 Etienne
 676 Thank you. 
 677 22:44:18
 678 FD
 679 Merci Etienne. 
 680 22:44:42
 681 Etienne
 682 Sorry: List with things to be done before the *AGM*. 
 683 22:44:48
 684 egal
 685 for PHP: i don't know as i lost track there since august (way too busy since then ... ;-( ) ... gukkdevel or ted should know more details here 
 686 22:44:59
 687 Etienne
 688 Thank you egal. 
 689 22:45:06
 690 bdmc
 691 I have been telling myself to get back into the Development Group.  Yes, as I remember, I had left a testable copy in git. 
 692 22:45:39
 693 Etienne
 694 So we have some good news for the AGM and starting points for 2019/2020. 
 695 22:45:44
 696 bdmc
 697 I was the one who was working on that projct. 
 698 22:46:04
 699 Well, I'm out.  Have Fun, All! 
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 701 Etienne
 702 FD wanted to find volunteer motivators. 
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 704 Treasurer
 705 Bye Brian. Thank you 
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 707 Etienne
 708 Bye Brian. 
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 710 FD
 711 Have a good day Brian. 
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 713 Treasurer
 714 Bye Folks, thank you for your efficient work and motivation 
 715 22:47:49
 716 egal
 717 cu brian 
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 719 FD
 720 Bonne nuit Frédéric. 
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 724 Etienne
 725 The addon question should be treatened by the same people that have a look to the PKI.js. Two ways for the same problem. 
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 727 Or two teams in competition? 
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