. '''To Brain''' '''[[Brain#CAcert_Inc._-_CAcert.org_Members_Association| CAcert Inc. - CAcert.org Members Association]]''' - '''[[AGM|General Meetings]]''' - '''To Brain CAcert Inc. Committee''' '''[[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes| Meeting Agendas & Minutes]]''' - '''[[OverviewProjectsBoard|Board's Project Overview]]''' - '''[[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/ActionItems|Current Action Items]]''' - '''[[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-08-29|last meeting]]''' - '''[[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-09-19|next meeting]]''' ## ####################################################################################### ## FILL IN ABOVE LAST MEETING DATE, NEXT MEETING DATE the correct DATEs ## ####################################################################################### ## please also edit overview under: https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes ## ## PM,PD means month and day of previous meeting ## NM,ND means month and day of next meeting ## AM,AD means month and day of actual meeting ## XM,XD means month and day of actual meeting (Australian time) ---- ## ########### ## if a new board was selected, uncomment the next line to inform new members '''[[AGM/NewBoardCheckList|Information for new board members]]''' = Committee Meeting 2019-09-05 (2019-09-06 in Australia) = The meeting will take place at [[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Board+Meeting&iso=2019-09-05T20:00:00|20:00 UTC]] in the IRC channel #board-meeting on the CAcert IRC network. Feel free to add a business item within the acceptance period of 48 hours or your question to the board below. Non-committee Members: Committee may choose to convert any business proposed as a question in the questions section. == Premeeting == 1. Minutes author prepares [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-08-29#Minutes|the minutes from 29 August]] 1. Minutes author puts [[https://community.cacert.org/board/motions.php?motion=m2019MMDD.1|motion m2019MMDD.1]] to accept the minutes from the last meeting. == Agenda == 1. Preliminaries 1. Chair opens the Committee Meeting 1. Who is making minutes? 1. Is there a timelimit? Who is time keeper? 1. Accept [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-08-29#Minutes|the minutes from 29 August]] 1. Chair asks whether [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private|cacert-board-private]] or [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board|cacert-board]] maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members. 1. Are there important tasks to discuss today? 1. Chair points [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2019-08-29#Actions|actions from last meeting]] to the meeting, and asks for discussion. {{{#!wiki caution Acceptance of Businesses 48 Hours before beginning of Committee Meeting latest! }}} 1.#2 Business 1. Association 1. SGM/AGM 2019 (Decision by circular letter in 3-4 days) . Fix a date (Friday 22/29 Nov [[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Board+Meeting&iso=2019-11-22T20:00:00|20:00 UTC]] = 21:00 Central Europe = Sat 23/30 Nov 07.00 in Sydney) . Survey running at https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/agm2019/ 1. Board 2019/20 1. resignations . Peter M, Frederic G 1. candidates 1. Community 1. Information to the community about volunteers and funds "big mail" (update by '''Etienne R''', '''critical''') . Mail will be sent by Wytze in the next hours. 1. This week we were able to take over the [[https://twitter.com/cacert_es|Spanish Twitter account]], which had been orphaned for three years. 1. We also initiated the takeover of the [[https://twitter.com/cacertparis|Paris Twitter account]], which has been silent for one year. This allows us to use Twitter for specific languages. 1. Since this week the [[https://twitter.com/cacert_news|CAcert_News account]] has been working again, twittering new blog entries. Working with Twitter was necessary and cumbersome, but at the fourth attempt it was suddenly quick and easy. 1. The aim is to also have evangelists for these accounts and Facebook who diligently spread the good news of CAcert in the social media. However, it is important that we always keep access to avoid time-consuming retrieval actions in the future. This is not urgent, but should be kept in mind. 1. Grants: open and new inquiries (updates by '''Brian M, Frederic D, Etienne R''') 1. '''Linux Australia - Submitting a grant application''' added by Frederic D . __Context of the issue__: https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2019-07/msg00013.html . __Possible solution to the issue__: Strategic plan to be completed by Brian and Peter M. I may give a hand as well. . __Expected outcome of the meeting__: receive the commitment of one or more persons who designate themselves as responsible for writing and submitting the grant application to Linux Australia. 1. '''Open Technology Fund - Submitting a "concept note" - Deadline 2019-08-31''' added by Frederic D . __Context of the issue__: https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board/2019-08/msg00024.html . __Direct link to the Open Technology Fund web sites__: . https://www.opentech.fund/funds/core-infrastructure-fund/ . https://guide.opentech.fund/general-funding-guidelines#contract-templates-and-usg-provisions . __Expected outcome of the meeting__: informative point only; the concept note has been submitted in time. 1. '''RIPE NCC Community Projects Fund - Grant application submitted" - Deadline 2019-09-01''' added by Frederic D . __Context of the issue__: https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board/2019-09/msg00005.html . __Direct link to the RIPE NCC Community Projects Fund web sites__: . https://www.ripe.net/support/cpf . https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/about-ripe-ncc-and-ripe/call-for-applicants-ripe-ncc-community-projects-fund-2019 . __Expected outcome of the meeting__: informative point only; the grant application has been submitted in time. 1. '''open and new inquiries''' we have now for month [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-03-01/ideas|46 ideas++]]. Each of us has to take one per month to apply, as having the ideas only in the wiki will never bring some funds. (updates from '''Brian M, Frederic D, Frederic G, Etienne R, Peter N, Peter M, Ross K''') 1. Formal documented plan for our future (needed by both CAcert and people giving us money) (update by '''Brian M, Peter M''') 1. Personnel/volunteers 1. '''critical team (main topic)''' 1. new members (see [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2019-09/msg00001.html|archive]] and [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2019-09/msg00006.html|archive]] [board members only]) 1. time schedule (see [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2019-09/msg00001.html|archive]] [board members only]) 1. background check 1. '''Arbitration''' . reactivation of "old" arbitrators (update by '''Brian M, Frederic D, Etienne R''') . AndreasBäß, ThomasBremer, --(AlexanderPrinsier,)-- NickBebout 1. '''Finances''' 1. Westpac (update by '''Peter M, Dirk A''') 1. Membership fees 2018 (and before) (update by '''Frederic G''') 1. --( The board decides to pay the invoice 2018-2 of €1,324.09 for hosting period June 2018 to November 2018 )-- Invoice paid already. -- [[Frédéric Dumas]] <> 1. '''International wire transfer - A cost effective solution''' added by Frederic D . __Context of the issue__: https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board/2019-07/msg00004.html . __Possible solution to the issue__: https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board/2019-07/msg00006.html . __Expected outcome of the meeting__: to give clear instructions to Treasurer on how-to pay the invoice 2019-1 of €1,349.27 for hosting period November 2018 to May 2019 with funds existing on the !WestPac bank account of the association. More generally, to give clear instructions to Treasurer on how-to transfer money from and to the association's bank accounts located in different countries. 1. Software 1. Bug 775 (update by '''Dirk A''') 1. Bug 1305: New root (update) (update by '''Bernhard F''') 1. Root Certificate Class 3 (end of life) (update by '''Brian M''') 1. Bug 1260 (and sub bugs 144x): PHP/Software (update '''Brian M, Karl-Heinz G, Peter M''') 1. other (new/pressing/...) 1. ''Dummy project (update by '''Alexander B, Frederic D''') --> Postponed to 26 Sept'' {{{#!wiki note Questions from CAcert.org Community Members can be added until beginning of Committee Meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added Question here }}} 1.#3 Question Time 1. __ABC for Karl-Heinz G ([[Arbitrations/a20160816.1|a20160816.1]])__ added by Frederic D . During its meeting on 2018-11-29, the committee [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2018-11-29|has approved]] to hand over this case to Bernhard F as Case Manager, in place of Eva S. Why Karl-Heinz G has not been ABC'ed since then? What is the underlying legacy problem [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2019-05/msg00010.html|linked to Eva S]] (cf. the mention ''stalled because of Eva's case'' in Etienne's pread sheet sent on cacert-board-private@lists.c.o on 2019-07-19 ? What are the steps to be completed to unlock the case? 1. __Access to !WestPac accounts__ added by Frederic D . On Jul 2019-07-10, Kevin D wrote to cacert-board-private@lists.c.o about his past efforts to provide [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2019-07/msg00003.html|Dirk with access to CAcert's bank accounts]] at !WestPac. The mail received no answer. Is it safe to think that we have no more problem to access to these bank accounts by the web? Is everything under control in this respect? 1. __French version of the association's blog__ - Getting posts translated quicker added by Frederic D . __Context of the issue__: https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-translations/2019-07/msg00000.html . __Possible solution to the issue__: to give me write access to the association's blog, for me to be able to publish French translations of any new content, as soon as it pops up. . __Expected outcome of the meeting__: adoption of a motion by the Committee members to give write access to Frederic D to the association's blog. 1. Closing 1. Agree on date of the next Committee Meeting (Wed/Thu 20 GMT = 21 FR/CH = 15 NY = Thu/Fri 07 AEST) 1. Agree on dates for the next meeting . 26 Sept 2019 . 10 Oct 2019 . 24 or 31 Oct 2019 . AGM 22 or 29 Nov 2019 1. Chair closes the Committee Meeting ## ####################################################################################### ## FILL IN MEETING AGENDA ITEMS FROM LAST MEETING MINUTES DEFERRED TO NEXT MEETING ## ####################################################################################### <> == Logfile == [[attachment:2019-09-05.txt|Logfile from meeting 2019-09-05]] <> == Minutes == Minutes will be written once the meeting is finished, with tasks listed in [[Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/ActionItems|action items]] and [[#Actions|Actions of this document]]. Present: Etienne, Brian, Frédéric D, Peter M, Frédéric G Apologies: Ross, Peter N Missing: Guests: '''Preliminaries''' At 20:03 UTC Brian took chair and started the meeting. He asks: We have got into the habit of assuming that the secretary will be doing the minutes. He accept to do it again, but it has to be kept in mind, as he wanted to push the relocation to Europe instead of writing the minutes. So if for the whole year he has to write the minutes, this will delay the relocation. The minutes from 29-08-2019 are accepted. Everything from the mailing lists has been put already into the today's agenda. '''Business''' ''Critical Team'' The Secretary has asked that we not follow the order of the Agenda, but instead start with item ''2.5.1 -- Personnel'' As it could be read in the message from WvdR, critical team neads the names (or at least first names) of the successors within 3 weeks. Frédéric D posted the CV of a first candidate, B...F... . Etienne contactet two people from his own network with no answer until today. It is suggested, that Brian will talk with B...F... and Wytze on a video conference. We need at least two others. One should be from a place around Ede (NL). It is talked to use the web of trust register. From the 370 000 members, about 6700 are assurers and 10 000 assurer candidates. That looks like a good pool. We hve also 3 groups at Linkedin (one with 576 members), 1 group at Xing, 1 group at Facebook. As time is short, we should check the candidates before accept them and register at arb for the ABC; probabely the ABC will not be finished until the handover. * Action item (president): video conference with Wytze and B...F... ''Arbitration'' Andreas Bäß is reactivated. Thomas Bremer and Nick Bebout: waiting for answer. Alexander Prinsier explicitely declined. Someone had the idea to store the three allowed emergency ABCs for super important cases. Andreas B now wants to present a revised ABC and check the people on the waiting list. It is asked, if he needs help on that. The secretary believes that as few people as possible should have an insight into the ABC Guide. And he remembers the separation of powers: arb is judicial, committee is executive, policy group is legislative. In regards to ABC for Karl-Heinz, the case manager asked the arbitrator to do the ruling. In principle, anyone can ask him. But since we are on the board, he can take that as interference. * Action item (secretary): Keep in touch with Andreas Bäß ''Finances'' Peter M would be happy to pass Westpac access to someone else and end his term on the board. He has already started a project that makes board meetings difficult. There is the [[https://lists.cacert.org/wws/arc/cacert-board-private/2019-07/msg00003.html|mail of Kevin], who stated that we tried to pass access to Dirk in the past. It seams, that it is very (!) difficult to pass Westpac access to someone outside of the Commonwealth of Australia. There is uncertainty about the future of the public officer. The secretary can serve with an European bank account from March 2020, if Peter can wait that long. Except for all of the places where we have advertised that account. But if we have an IBAN number, Westpac will only be relevant for donations from Australia. It is enough to check once a year what is there. There is the question whether Peter (on paper) remains a public officer and looks into the account once a year in this function. Otherwise no task for him. Statement from Frédéric G: He is not resigning within one month time, but as soon as he finds a successor. * Action item (Peter M): Looking if he has the rights to add new members to the westpac account. * Action item (Dirk A): Get in touch with Kevin concerning mail from July for Westpac access. * Action item (secretary): Get certainty about the future of the public officer. * Action item (treasurer): Finding a sucessor * Motion: that we contact Kevin and ask him to give Peter M. and Dirk Administrator access to the CAcert Westpac account. '''Question Time''' Karl-Heinz's ABC: board as DRO ask the arbitrator in charge of the ABC over Karl Heinz G. about the progress of the case and what's missing to close the case. The secretary shall do it. * Action item (secretary): write to the arbitrator and the case manager '''Closing''' We aggreed on '''2019-09-19-20:00 UTC for the next meeting'''. Chair closed the meeting at 00:49 UTC <> === Motions === * [[https://community.cacert.org/board/motions.php?motion=m2018AMAD.1|m2018AMAD.1]]: ''Motion to accept Minutes from last meeting'' * [[https://community.cacert.org/board/motions.php?motion=m2018AMAD.#|m2018AMAD.#]]: ''Motions from the meeting'' <> === Actions === || ''Who'' || ''Status'' || ''Action'' || || Minutemaker || wip || prepare Agenda and Minutes for the next meeting || || Secretary || wip || contact the Arbitrator and Case Manager together on [[Arbitrations/a20160816.1|case a20160816.1]] || ---- . CategoryBoardMinutes