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egal
salue 
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Etienne
Hello egal 
22:01:08
Have you allready seen that: https://twitter.com/CAcert/status/1116430555090911235 
22:02:44
egal
wasn't there 5 minutes ago ... ;-) 
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just read it ... ;-) 
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(however: some finetuning is to be done within the next days ...) 
22:04:31
Etienne
On which day does CAcert no longer need any fine-tuning? 
22:09:37
egal
emails still contain the old fingerprint (need to verify this information), new roots should be copied to the older name (as they may be downloaded directly) ... 
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... and at the time the CRL-bug will be updated, the PGP-key should be resigned (requires access to the signer) 
22:11:16
Etienne
I read this in the bug tracker. 
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bdmc
I apologise for my tardiness. 
22:16:27
Etienne
Hello bdmc, congratulations for the newsletter I get this morning! 
22:16:29
bdmc
I was on the road, and late returning. 
22:16:41
Finally!! 
22:17:10
I wonder whether anybody actually wants us to produce a newsletter once in a while, or never? 
22:18:58
Etienne
We only have a raison d'être when people know that we exist, that things are moving forward and what is going on. 
22:19:44
bdmc
Or maybe we have more reason -- to tell them that there IS activity in the forward direction. 
22:20:38
Etienne
Newsletter, blog, twitter, press releases.... https://twitter.com/CAcert/status/1116430555090911235 
22:22:41
bdmc
True.  People have to make an effort to see the news and blog.  A newsletter shows up, and they can choose to read it or not. 
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I don't have anything to do with Twitter so don't know about that. 
22:29:45
bdmc
I was wondering whether there was a better way to do this, but it is VERY early for the Australians, and getting late for you in Eastern and Central Europe. 
22:29:48
Etienne
On Twitter, the question is who reads it anyway (except your president's tweets). But we reach other people than usual. Broad impact. 
22:30:51
bdmc
Don't associate him with me!  B-)   As it happens, I am a Canadian living in the US, so can't claim any credit or relationship with him. 
22:31:50
Etienne
We don't have another time frame. For Europe, it is OK, if its not for toooooo long ;-) 
22:33:16
bdmc
Understood.  If we can keep these down to 1 or 1,5 hours, we should be all right.  I gather that it is just us two today? 
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egal
... and me as a guest ... ;-) 
22:37:50
bdmc
egal: Thank you, Dirk.  I saw an interesting message as I was getting connected to this meeting. 
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Do you know where that is coming from? 
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egal
which message? 
22:38:40
bdmc
If I remember correctly, the one about renewing your certificate. 
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It was from Mantis. 
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egal
etienne sent something ... 
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from mantis? 
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then it should contain a bug number 
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bdmc
5800 -- a comment on 1305. 
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Timestamp is 17:27. 
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egal
ah ... this one ... etienne and i already talked about it ... 
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bdmc
OK. 
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egal
there are still some minor things to do for bug 1305 to make it final ... 
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(and we should document it ... as we'll need it in around 2 years again) 
22:41:39
bdmc
Agreed.  The most obvious parts seem to be done.  Now we just have some cleaning up. 
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egal
correct ... 
22:42:30
bdmc
I wonder what is hammering at the server, downloading copies of the Root Cert? 
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egal
me too ... 
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bdmc
Is it one IP address, or multiple? 
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egal
wytze wrote, that it's one ... 
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bdmc
Might be able to block that at the firewall, if it is "bad." 
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egal
let's do the cleanup for 1305 ... and then investigate this issue 
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bdmc
Agreed.  One step at a time. 
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egal
(next bugs we shoudl focus are the CRL-things (counter and size) and the PGP-stuff) 
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bdmc
Speaking of which, Etienne, I would like to spend some time together ( not at the same time ) doing two things.  As you said, Peter seems to have disappeared, although I will try to contact him once more.  I would like to discuss the Mission and related topics with you.  I think that we are close on the Mission Statement, but need the next steps.  I would also like to do a bit of work together on your 
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other document that I seem to have been neglecting.  I could have sworn that I had responded in the past, but I guess not. 
22:48:10
egal: Those are not part of 1305, or are they? 
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Etienne
No, not 1305. 
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bdmc
OK.  What priority would you put on 14XX?  After these? 
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Code updates. 
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( Language updates ) 
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egal
php-code-update i would do after the CRL-thingy ... as the php-code-update needs a lot more time to review 
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but first i need to do support again ... ;-) 
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bdmc
egal: Good enough.  I have been procrastinating, anyway. 
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Etienne
egal, can you ask support to push the case board filed for arbitration? 
22:52:26
bdmc
If there isn't anything Board-related, I need to run off and pay a bill. 
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Talk to you two in e-mail. 
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Brian 
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Etienne
Good bye, bdmc, read you soon... 
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egal
@etienne: you're already asking support ... ;-) 
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Etienne
I wil ask again - for the next case, the president and I are preparing. A real big issue... 
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I cannot see, what your eyes have seen ;-) 
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egal
we need more supporters ... 
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Etienne
more supporters, more developers, more members, more dontators, more reviewers, more translators, more org assurers, more members, more activity, more board members, more volunteers, more... 
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egal
;-) 
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yep ... 
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(you forget arbitration ...) 
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Etienne
Do you remember E.S., former Arb and more? She wanted a ruling changed and you had an idea and wanted to talk to AlexUK or someone else. 
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22:15:56
Etienne
Dirk, hätte dein Sohn Interesse an einem kleinen Posten, den er später dann in seinem CV bei der Stellenbewerbung nutzen kann, aber eigentlich keine Arbeit mit sich bringt? 
22:17:47
Etienne
Wenn (die spinnen die) Briten wirklich brexiten, müssen wir Megan als Data Protection Officer ersetzen. 
22:24:35
egal
muss ich ihn mal fragen ... ;-) 
22:26:02
Etienne
Es gibt eine spezielle e-Mail-Adresse, die an den DP Of und an secretary weitergeleitet wird. Normalerweise erledigt es dann board. Nur wenn die gestorben sind, muss der DP Of in die Hosen steigen (abdann ist eh Lichterlöshen). 
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egal
ich muss da mal drueber nachdenken und mit ihm (bzw. anderen kandidaten) quasseln ... 
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egal
welches ruling? 
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Etienne
Da war doch eine Geschichte, wo ein Ruling nur durch den gleichen Arb wieder geändert werden darf, aber es nicht klar ist, ob dem Ruling überhaupt Rechtskraft erwachsen ist, da noch nicht formell abgeschlossen. 
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egal
ach ... das ABC-ding ... 
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Etienne
Oder war es ein anderes, das Eva vertrieben hat? Wegen Haftungsfrage. 
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egal
wobei mir ganz lieb waere, wenn endlich mal das ABC ueber karl-heinz abgeschlossen wuerde ... 
23:04:53
Etienne
Wer ist denn da dran? 
23:05:32
egal
"vertrieben" wurde eva vom "stefan"-case ... dabei war sie ja noch nett zu stefan ... aber der war einfach zu doof ... ;-( 
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Etienne
stefan? 
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egal
der wollte in revision gehen ... und das hat dann alex_uk verbockt ... ;-( 
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(das ist aber was laengeres ... sollten wir nicht mehr heute bequasseln ...) 
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Etienne
nein, nein, nichts langes. Meine Strategie ist seit zwei Jahren: lieber viele kleine Dinge abschliessen, als ein grosses anfangen. Sieht erfolgreicher aus. 
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egal
recht haste ... ;-) 
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(dann fang ich jetzt erstmal mit was einfachem an ... 
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... mit dem ins-bett-gehen ... ;-) ) 
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Etienne
Obwohl, das ist nicht immer so einfach, wie es scheint... gute Nacht und schlaf gut! 
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egal
du auch ... 
Etienne