1 09:55 -!- INOPIAE changed the topic of #board-meeting to: Board Meeting 2016-02-07 10:00 UTC | https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2016-02-07
   2 09:56 -!- mode/#board-meeting [+o jmbruckner] by INOPIAE
   3 09:59 -!- mode/#board-meeting [+o felix_] by INOPIAE
   4 10:00 <@R> hello all together
   5 10:00 <@R> welcome to our today's board meeting
   6 10:00 <@INOPIAE> Good morning
   7 10:00 <@R> I hereby open the board meeting
   8 10:00 <@jmbruckner> Good morning
   9 10:00 <@StefanT> Good Morning
  10 10:01 -!- INOPIAE changed the topic of #board-meeting to: Board Meeting 2016-02-07 10:00 UTC| the channel is moderated for voice to board member only | https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2016-02-07
  11 10:01 <@R> let's start
  12 10:02 <@R> we have a quorum
  13 10:02 <@R> Accept the minutes from the last meeting. 
  14 10:02 <@R> any comments?
  15 10:02 -!- magu [magu@vpn.ccs-baumann.de] has joined #board-meeting
  16 10:03 <@R> I move to accept the minutes from the last meeting
  17 10:03 <@jmbruckner> second and aye
  18 10:03 <@INOPIAE> aye
  19 10:03 <@StefanT> aye
  20 10:03 <@R> aye
  21 10:04 <@R> minutes accepted
  22 10:04 <@R> Who is making minutes? 
  23 10:04 <@INOPIAE> I will do them.
  24 10:05 <@R> thank you Marcus
  25 10:05 <@R> Chair asks whether cacert-board-private maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members. 
  26 10:06 <@StefanT> Nothing from my site
  27 10:06 <@R> nothing from my site
  28 10:06 <@R> next topic
  29 10:06 <@R> Chair asks whether cacert-board maillist includes any business items that aren't on the agenda yet. 
  30 10:07 <@StefanT> Nothing, too
  31 10:07 <@R> elephants only?
  32 10:07 <@R> we have it on the agenda
  33 10:08 <@R> next topic
  34 10:08 <@R> Chair introduces the URL of action items to the meeting, and asks for discussion. 
  35 10:08 <@INOPIAE> We did not update the action items yet.
  36 10:09 <@INOPIAE> In the meantime the a first version of the key persons list was sent out.
  37 10:09 <@R> yes, i got it
  38 10:10 <@R> next topic
  39 10:10 <@R> 2. Businesses 
  40 10:10 <@R> 2.1 Root Re-Sign Update 
  41 10:11 <@R> During FOSDEM we had a discussion with our critical team members and confirmed to look for a new date when the procedure will be performed
  42 10:11 <@R> it should be done ASAP
  43 10:13 <@R> next topic 
  44 10:13 <@R> 2.2 Investigation Committee update
  45 10:14 <@R> status quo: 2 assurers confirmed to work as investigation committee.
  46 10:14 <@R> they will get the inital email today.
  47 10:14 <@R> I wait for an answer and give all documents to all invovled parties.
  48 10:15 <@R> next topic
  49 10:15 <@R> 2.3 Opinion survey about Re-Signing procedure
  50 10:16 <@INOPIAE> For the opionion survey 72 invitation mails were sent.
  51 10:16 <@INOPIAE> 30 members took part in the survey with 20 aye and 10 no.
  52 10:16 <@INOPIAE> 3 person sent their private survey token to at least one mailing list.
  53 10:17 <@R> we say THANKS to all who attended the survey.
  54 10:17 <@INOPIAE> We will document the survey in the Wiki.
  55 10:19 <@R> next topic
  56 10:19 <@R> 2.4 FOSDEM report
  57 10:19 <@INOPIAE> We talked to some board members of the Greek Free/Open Source Software Society https://gfoss.ellak.gr/greekfreeopensourcesoftwaresocietygfoss/. They are think about an organisation assurance as well as on may be pushing CAcert assurances in Greece 
  58 10:19 <@INOPIAE> I talked to one person who wants to make a contact to a member of the honorable consule corps to talk about the matter that the honoarable consules might serve as TTP.
  59 10:20 <@jmbruckner> thats sounds interesting
  60 10:20 <@INOPIAE> I think so too
  61 10:20 <@jmbruckner> would that mean the  w h o l e  honorable consuls corps worldwide?
  62 10:21 <@INOPIAE> As far as I understood it yes. But let us see what they can offer.
  63 10:21 <@jmbruckner> very good. yes for sure
  64 10:22 <@INOPIAE> we talk to one board member of the PEP foundation https://pep.foundation/index.html who offered us on the one side sponsoring and on the other hand we talk about the possibility to create a solution where their software is offering the user to create a CAcert account through the software and also creating a client certificate.
  65 10:22 <@INOPIAE> we talked to some members of the ring project https://ring.cx/ who try to develop a voice platform similar to skype. Here again could be a possible solution where that their software is offering the user to create a CAcert account through the software and also creating a client certificate.
  66 10:23 <@INOPIAE> Basically we face the same question we have for the next topic
  67 10:24 <@R> next topic
  68 10:24 <@R> 2.5 Request to add CAcert-Root Certificates to the trust store of PaleMoon/FossaMail. (by Juergen) 
  69 10:24 <@R> Juergen, will you please give an explanation
  70 10:24 <@jmbruckner> YEs, sure :)
  71 10:25 <@jmbruckner> In september 2015 we got an request from the developer of the Web-Browser PaleMoon and Mail-Client FossaMail to include the CAcert - Root-Certificates in this applications
  72 10:27 <@jmbruckner> The request wasnt handled by the old board, as it was just a few days before the AGM and old president stated that he wants that the new board makes such decisions
  73 10:27 <@INOPIAE> As far as I see the main problem is to make sure that the user of the software is accepting the RDL as laid out in top 3 of the RDL.
  74 10:27 <@INOPIAE>  https://www.cacert.org/policy/RootDistributionLicense.html
  75 10:27 <@jmbruckner> Correct @Inopiae
  76 10:28 <@jmbruckner> I had some contact with the leader/founder of the PaleMoon-Project in the last days
  77 10:28 <@jmbruckner> Hed did request for first a Basic-Decision from the board; then we can talk about details and solutions
  78 10:29 <@INOPIAE> I second to go on with the talk to them.
  79 10:30 <@jmbruckner> He is also aware of the planned Root-Re-Signing - Plans, and he stated that this will bring some more time for preparations of the inclusion
  80 10:30 <@R> so we have to clarify their acceptance of our RDL?
  81 10:30 <@INOPIAE> Actual teh re-signed root will only be on more certificate that needs to be deployed.
  82 10:31 <@jmbruckner> Yes thats one of the points which have to be clarified, and as well how this can be implemented in the software.
  83 10:32 <@INOPIAE> My suggestion iwould be, haveing a popup ask it the user wants to include the CAcert rrot certificates to his truststore. If he accepts import them otherwise not. As the software is open source we should check that the inclusion is only done after acceptance.
  84 10:32 <@jmbruckner> For today we should come to the basic-decision that we want to include our Root-Certificates in the trust store of the PaleMoon-Project
  85 10:33 <@jmbruckner> That is a good idea @INOPIAE! But details are not needed at this point of the process
  86 10:34 <@R> I like to say that we want our roots be pre-installed if all requirements are met by the project.
  87 10:36 <@INOPIAE> I move that we start the talk with PaleMoon that we want our roots be pre-installed if all requirements are met by the project.
  88 10:37 <@R> second and aye
  89 10:37 <@INOPIAE> aye
  90 10:37 <@jmbruckner> aye with a little change ...
  91 10:37 <@StefanT> aye
  92 10:37 <@R> change what?
  93 10:38 <@jmbruckner> I move .... with PaleMonn-Project (PaleMoon-Browser and FossaMail-Cliant) ...
  94 10:38 <@StefanT> good suggestion
  95 10:38 <@jmbruckner> who finds typos my keep them ;)
  96 10:38 <@INOPIAE> aye
  97 10:38 <@jmbruckner> aye (again)
  98 10:38 <@StefanT> aye, again
  99 10:39 <@R> @jmb... please consider to sell them at ebay, that a bid, you will get higher expanses :D
 100 10:39 <@StefanT> as donation, please
 101 10:39  * jmbruckner will donate it
 102 10:40 <@R> i count 4 aye
 103 10:40 <@R> motion accepted
 104 10:41 <@R> next topic
 105 10:41 <@R> 2.6 E-Mail "About elephants" 
 106 10:41 <@R> I propose to discuss this email in all details at our next board meeting
 107 10:41 <@R> reasons
 108 10:42 <@R> there are NO elephants in opur membership!
 109 10:42 <@R> if we answer with this tongue I see it as an insult of all our members, community as well as Inc
 110 10:43 <@R> the writer of this email may think to circumvent the law
 111 10:43 <@R> but this is a wrong assumption
 112 10:44 <@R> in fact his wish is that all reader replace the word "elephant" by some real names
 113 10:44 <@R> so this email may be seen as an attack against our principles
 114 10:45 <@R> we need some time to study this email and its consequuences
 115 10:45 <@R> that my 2 cent
 116 10:46 <@INOPIAE> Yes I think we need to have some time to see the consequences of the email.
 117 10:47 <@R> any comments?
 118 10:47 <@INOPIAE> I follow you to defer the discussion to the next meeting.
 119 10:47 <@StefanT> aye
 120 10:48 <@jmbruckner> ayes
 121 10:48 <@R> so we will discuss it in the next board meeting
 122 10:48 <@R> we will be better prepared for a discussion
 123 10:49 <@R> next topc
 124 10:49 <@R> 3. Question Time
 125 10:49 <@R> please open the channel for questions from the floor
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 128 10:54 <@R> any questions from the floor?
 129 10:57 <@R> no questions
 130 10:57 -!- mode/#board-meeting [+m] by INOPIAE
 131 10:57 <@R> next meeting?
 132 10:57 <@R> 2016-02-28 10:00 UTC ??
 133 10:57 <@INOPIAE> I suggest 2016-02-28 10 UTC
 134 10:57 <@R> okay for you?
 135 10:57 <@StefanT> OK
 136 10:57 <@jmbruckner> i suggest Feb 28th, 10.00 UTC
 137 10:58 <@R> ok next meeting on 2016-02-28 10:00 UTC in irc.channel
 138 10:58 <@R> thank you very much
 139 10:58 <@R> I hereby close the board meeting
 140 10:58 <@R> have a nice day
 141 10:58 <@StefanT> Good Bye
 142 10:58 <@R> see you soon
 143 10:58 <@INOPIAE> bye
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 145 10:59 <@jmbruckner> byee
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