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09:56 -!- mode/#board-meeting [+o jmbruckner] by INOPIAE
09:59 -!- mode/#board-meeting [+o felix_] by INOPIAE
10:00 <@R> hello all together
10:00 <@R> welcome to our today's board meeting
10:00 <@INOPIAE> Good morning
10:00 <@R> I hereby open the board meeting
10:00 <@jmbruckner> Good morning
10:00 <@StefanT> Good Morning
10:01 -!- INOPIAE changed the topic of #board-meeting to: Board Meeting 2016-02-07 10:00 UTC| the channel is moderated for voice to board member only | https://wiki.cacert.org/Brain/CAcertInc/Committee/MeetingAgendasAndMinutes/2016-02-07
10:01 <@R> let's start
10:02 <@R> we have a quorum
10:02 <@R> Accept the minutes from the last meeting. 
10:02 <@R> any comments?
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10:03 <@R> I move to accept the minutes from the last meeting
10:03 <@jmbruckner> second and aye
10:03 <@INOPIAE> aye
10:03 <@StefanT> aye
10:03 <@R> aye
10:04 <@R> minutes accepted
10:04 <@R> Who is making minutes? 
10:04 <@INOPIAE> I will do them.
10:05 <@R> thank you Marcus
10:05 <@R> Chair asks whether cacert-board-private maillist includes any items that need to be disclosed to Members. 
10:06 <@StefanT> Nothing from my site
10:06 <@R> nothing from my site
10:06 <@R> next topic
10:06 <@R> Chair asks whether cacert-board maillist includes any business items that aren't on the agenda yet. 
10:07 <@StefanT> Nothing, too
10:07 <@R> elephants only?
10:07 <@R> we have it on the agenda
10:08 <@R> next topic
10:08 <@R> Chair introduces the URL of action items to the meeting, and asks for discussion. 
10:08 <@INOPIAE> We did not update the action items yet.
10:09 <@INOPIAE> In the meantime the a first version of the key persons list was sent out.
10:09 <@R> yes, i got it
10:10 <@R> next topic
10:10 <@R> 2. Businesses 
10:10 <@R> 2.1 Root Re-Sign Update 
10:11 <@R> During FOSDEM we had a discussion with our critical team members and confirmed to look for a new date when the procedure will be performed
10:11 <@R> it should be done ASAP
10:13 <@R> next topic 
10:13 <@R> 2.2 Investigation Committee update
10:14 <@R> status quo: 2 assurers confirmed to work as investigation committee.
10:14 <@R> they will get the inital email today.
10:14 <@R> I wait for an answer and give all documents to all invovled parties.
10:15 <@R> next topic
10:15 <@R> 2.3 Opinion survey about Re-Signing procedure
10:16 <@INOPIAE> For the opionion survey 72 invitation mails were sent.
10:16 <@INOPIAE> 30 members took part in the survey with 20 aye and 10 no.
10:16 <@INOPIAE> 3 person sent their private survey token to at least one mailing list.
10:17 <@R> we say THANKS to all who attended the survey.
10:17 <@INOPIAE> We will document the survey in the Wiki.
10:19 <@R> next topic
10:19 <@R> 2.4 FOSDEM report
10:19 <@INOPIAE> We talked to some board members of the Greek Free/Open Source Software Society https://gfoss.ellak.gr/greekfreeopensourcesoftwaresocietygfoss/. They are think about an organisation assurance as well as on may be pushing CAcert assurances in Greece 
10:19 <@INOPIAE> I talked to one person who wants to make a contact to a member of the honorable consule corps to talk about the matter that the honoarable consules might serve as TTP.
10:20 <@jmbruckner> thats sounds interesting
10:20 <@INOPIAE> I think so too
10:20 <@jmbruckner> would that mean the  w h o l e  honorable consuls corps worldwide?
10:21 <@INOPIAE> As far as I understood it yes. But let us see what they can offer.
10:21 <@jmbruckner> very good. yes for sure
10:22 <@INOPIAE> we talk to one board member of the PEP foundation https://pep.foundation/index.html who offered us on the one side sponsoring and on the other hand we talk about the possibility to create a solution where their software is offering the user to create a CAcert account through the software and also creating a client certificate.
10:22 <@INOPIAE> we talked to some members of the ring project https://ring.cx/ who try to develop a voice platform similar to skype. Here again could be a possible solution where that their software is offering the user to create a CAcert account through the software and also creating a client certificate.
10:23 <@INOPIAE> Basically we face the same question we have for the next topic
10:24 <@R> next topic
10:24 <@R> 2.5 Request to add CAcert-Root Certificates to the trust store of PaleMoon/FossaMail. (by Juergen) 
10:24 <@R> Juergen, will you please give an explanation
10:24 <@jmbruckner> YEs, sure :)
10:25 <@jmbruckner> In september 2015 we got an request from the developer of the Web-Browser PaleMoon and Mail-Client FossaMail to include the CAcert - Root-Certificates in this applications
10:27 <@jmbruckner> The request wasnt handled by the old board, as it was just a few days before the AGM and old president stated that he wants that the new board makes such decisions
10:27 <@INOPIAE> As far as I see the main problem is to make sure that the user of the software is accepting the RDL as laid out in top 3 of the RDL.
10:27 <@INOPIAE>  https://www.cacert.org/policy/RootDistributionLicense.html
10:27 <@jmbruckner> Correct @Inopiae
10:28 <@jmbruckner> I had some contact with the leader/founder of the PaleMoon-Project in the last days
10:28 <@jmbruckner> Hed did request for first a Basic-Decision from the board; then we can talk about details and solutions
10:29 <@INOPIAE> I second to go on with the talk to them.
10:30 <@jmbruckner> He is also aware of the planned Root-Re-Signing - Plans, and he stated that this will bring some more time for preparations of the inclusion
10:30 <@R> so we have to clarify their acceptance of our RDL?
10:30 <@INOPIAE> Actual teh re-signed root will only be on more certificate that needs to be deployed.
10:31 <@jmbruckner> Yes thats one of the points which have to be clarified, and as well how this can be implemented in the software.
10:32 <@INOPIAE> My suggestion iwould be, haveing a popup ask it the user wants to include the CAcert rrot certificates to his truststore. If he accepts import them otherwise not. As the software is open source we should check that the inclusion is only done after acceptance.
10:32 <@jmbruckner> For today we should come to the basic-decision that we want to include our Root-Certificates in the trust store of the PaleMoon-Project
10:33 <@jmbruckner> That is a good idea @INOPIAE! But details are not needed at this point of the process
10:34 <@R> I like to say that we want our roots be pre-installed if all requirements are met by the project.
10:36 <@INOPIAE> I move that we start the talk with PaleMoon that we want our roots be pre-installed if all requirements are met by the project.
10:37 <@R> second and aye
10:37 <@INOPIAE> aye
10:37 <@jmbruckner> aye with a little change ...
10:37 <@StefanT> aye
10:37 <@R> change what?
10:38 <@jmbruckner> I move .... with PaleMonn-Project (PaleMoon-Browser and FossaMail-Cliant) ...
10:38 <@StefanT> good suggestion
10:38 <@jmbruckner> who finds typos my keep them ;)
10:38 <@INOPIAE> aye
10:38 <@jmbruckner> aye (again)
10:38 <@StefanT> aye, again
10:39 <@R> @jmb... please consider to sell them at ebay, that a bid, you will get higher expanses :D
10:39 <@StefanT> as donation, please
10:39  * jmbruckner will donate it
10:40 <@R> i count 4 aye
10:40 <@R> motion accepted
10:41 <@R> next topic
10:41 <@R> 2.6 E-Mail "About elephants" 
10:41 <@R> I propose to discuss this email in all details at our next board meeting
10:41 <@R> reasons
10:42 <@R> there are NO elephants in opur membership!
10:42 <@R> if we answer with this tongue I see it as an insult of all our members, community as well as Inc
10:43 <@R> the writer of this email may think to circumvent the law
10:43 <@R> but this is a wrong assumption
10:44 <@R> in fact his wish is that all reader replace the word "elephant" by some real names
10:44 <@R> so this email may be seen as an attack against our principles
10:45 <@R> we need some time to study this email and its consequuences
10:45 <@R> that my 2 cent
10:46 <@INOPIAE> Yes I think we need to have some time to see the consequences of the email.
10:47 <@R> any comments?
10:47 <@INOPIAE> I follow you to defer the discussion to the next meeting.
10:47 <@StefanT> aye
10:48 <@jmbruckner> ayes
10:48 <@R> so we will discuss it in the next board meeting
10:48 <@R> we will be better prepared for a discussion
10:49 <@R> next topc
10:49 <@R> 3. Question Time
10:49 <@R> please open the channel for questions from the floor
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10:54 <@R> any questions from the floor?
10:57 <@R> no questions
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10:57 <@R> next meeting?
10:57 <@R> 2016-02-28 10:00 UTC ??
10:57 <@INOPIAE> I suggest 2016-02-28 10 UTC
10:57 <@R> okay for you?
10:57 <@StefanT> OK
10:57 <@jmbruckner> i suggest Feb 28th, 10.00 UTC
10:58 <@R> ok next meeting on 2016-02-28 10:00 UTC in irc.channel
10:58 <@R> thank you very much
10:58 <@R> I hereby close the board meeting
10:58 <@R> have a nice day
10:58 <@StefanT> Good Bye
10:58 <@R> see you soon
10:58 <@INOPIAE> bye
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10:59 <@jmbruckner> byee
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