* Case Number: a20140926.2 * Status: execution * Claimant: Support represented by Marcus M * Respondent: CAcert * initial Case Manager: EvaStöwe * Case Manager: PietStarreveld * Arbitrator: EvaStöwe * Date of arbitration start: 2016-08-11 * Date of ruling: 2016-08-11 * Case closed: 2016-08-27 * Complaint: problems during deletion of account * Relief: advise for problems during deletion of account Before: Arbitrator EvaStöwe (A), Respondent: CAcert (R), Claimant: Support represented by Marcus M (C), Case: a20140926.2 <> == History Log == . 2014-09-26 (issue.c.o): case [s20140926.274] . 2014-09-29 (iCM): added to wiki, request for CM / A . 2014-09-29 (iCM): notifies C about case . 2016-08-11 (CM): pick up case, select EvaStöwe as Arbitrator . 2016-08-11 (A): init and advise/ruling to C (Support) . 2016-08-27 (A): close case '''Link to Arbitration case [[Arbitrations/priv/a20140926.2|a20140926.2 (Private Part)]], Access for (CM) + (A) only''' ## ==> INCLUDE SECTION BOT <> ## <== INCLUDE SECTION EOT ==== EOT Private Part ==== problems during deletion of account == original Dispute == {{{ Seeking for advice how to proceed. I split the ticket. The original request is still on the support queue under [ticket number]. Please qoute it in your answers. While trying to delete the account the software tells me that the certificate retion tim eof at least on certificate is not over yet. The account only has one certificate with an expiration date [long ago date] }}} The original case was a delete account case. Parts in [] removed by iCM because of possible privacy reasons. == Arbitration Advice/Ruling == {{{ Here is the "advise"/ruling: 1. in general: * If there is a ticket that requires some access or process, but none of the defined processes are matching or working, the case has to be handed over to arbitration. Please read up the part about "Support" in the Security Policy [4] for clarification, if necessary. * This is especially true for delete account cases as the CCA explicitly requires them to be handled either by following a ruled process or by Arbitration, directly. 2. Specifically: * Please check for active certificates AND PGP-keys at the time where support tried to close this account prior to filing the dispute. * Please also try to close this account following the normal procedure, again, if this was not already done. * If this is not possible and "the software tells you that the certificate retention time for at least one certificate is not over yet", again, please check the according times (including retention times) of certificates AND PGP-keys. If they are preventing the closure, continue with the normal process. * If this is not the issue that is preventing the closure of the account, please hand over the complete case to arbitration. In this case please include any relevant data of the case, that may be of interest. * Afterwards, please report your steps/findings to this case. Eva Stöwe, 2016-08-11 }}} == Execution == . 2016-08-11 (A): init and advise/ruling to C (Support) == Similiar Cases == There is a multitude of similar account deletion cases. They are available through the Categegory links mentioned towards the end of this case log. For brevity only the applicable '''precedents cases''' are listed here and one very similar case involving CAcert signatures on GPG/PGP keys as a reference. || [[Arbitrations/a20111128.3|a20111128.3]] ||<#ffff80> [[Arbitrations/a20111128.3|Delete Account cases which may be handled by SE - No Assurances given, no certs or certs expired]] - [[Arbitrations/Training/Lesson12|Precedents Case]] {i} || || [[Arbitrations/a20141024.1|a20141024.1]] ||<#ffff80> [[Arbitrations/a20141024.1| Terminate account]] - [[Arbitrations/Training/Lesson12|Precedents Case]] {i} || || [[Arbitrations/a20140713.1|a20140713.1]] ||<#ffff80> [[Arbitrations/a20140713.1|Delete assurer account with all assurances older than 7 years]] - [[Arbitrations/Training/Lesson12|Precedents Case]] {i} || || [[Arbitrations/a20140123.1|a20140123.1]] ||<#ffff80> [[Arbitrations/a20140123.1|Close my assurer account]] - [[Arbitrations/Training/Lesson12|Precedents Case]] {i} || || [[Arbitrations/a20141022.2|a20141022.2]] || [[Arbitrations/a20141022.2|Access to database needed to track down user interface error]] || == Account Deletion Procedure == * [[Arbitrations/Training/Lesson20new|Arbitration Training - Lesson 20]] * [[Arbitrations/Training/Lesson20/DeleteAccountProcSEv3|Actions for a Support Engineer (v3)]] ---- . CategoryArbitration . CategoryArbCaseSystemTasks . CategoryArbCaseAccountDelNonAssurer