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== Arbitration Team Meeting 2013-01-17 (22 CET, 21 UTC) ==

 * Meeting will be held on IRC channel #arb-meeting 

 . 1 '''Preliminaries'''

  . 1.1 Chair opens the Committee Meeting

  . 1.2 Appoint Minute taker

  . 1.3 Accept the '''[[Arbitrations/Meetings/ATAgendaandMinutes-20121205 | Minutes of the last Arbitration Team Meeting]]''' 

 . 2 '''Businesses''' - Important Note: '''Acceptance of Businesses 48 Hours before beginning of Arbitration Team Meeting latest!'''

  .2.1 '''Review Progress of suggestions to amend DRP from [[https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/Meetings/Transcripts/transcript-meeting-121024 | Meeting 2012-10-24]]''' added by AlexRobertson 
   . PD offered to write a draft...
   . from meeting transcript
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(23:09:42) phidelta: @u60 I'll write a draft of a policy change, evaluate it on its merits. I think you will find that it may solve that issue
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  .2.2 '''Possible precedent case''' added by AlexRobertson (cont. from meeting [[Arbitrations/Meetings/ATAgendaandMinutes-20121205|2012-12-05]])
   . [[https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20120115.2|a20120115.2]]
   . Name mismatch case
   {{{
This case is a essentially repeat of earlier cases, notably https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20090618.12 and https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20091128.2 so the general precedent exists that short forms of names are allowed to be recognised in the Account Name and I rule that it is allowable here that Nick may assure Russ despite the name difference between account and ID. 

Based on the more general case made by the Assurance Officer with the introduction of "Relaxed Rules" for assurance, I also rule that any assurer can legitimately assure a person regardless of whether the name on the assuree's account tallies exactly with their ID Documentation or not provided 
1. the assurer documents exactly the names that were seen on the assuree's ID documents 
2. the assurer is convinced that the Account name, the assuree and the documentation all relate to the same individual and that the Account name is reasonable with respect to the assuree's name (If the names are vastly different and particularly if the account name is that of a well-known person, alarm bells should ring in the assurer's mind!) 
3.that the Risks/Liabilities/Obligations are disclosed to and understood by the assuree 
4.the assurer is satisfied that the assuree accepts the CCA 
5.the assurer is convinced that the assuree can be brought into arbitration if needed. 

Finally I recommend to the DRO and arbitration team that this second ruling is made a formal precedent that support can act upon, as I am sure that this type of case will continue to arise on a regular basis
}}}

  .2.3 '''New Arbteam meeting interval''' added by UlrichSchroeter
   . ''from''
   . (4.1)  Confirm next Arbitration Team Meeting:  Usually every 1st Tuesday and the 3rd Wednesday of the month, 20:00 UTC (19 CET).
   . ''to''
   . (4.1)  Confirm next Arbitration Team Meeting:  Usually every 2nd or 3rd Thursday a month, 21:00 UTC (22 CET).

  .2.4 '''Vote in Policy on Appeal fix-ups''' added by [[Iang]]
   . Policy Group invites input from Arbitrators on fixing up the Appeal switch over from Board to Arb Forum.
   . Consider [[https://svn.cacert.org/CAcert/Policies/DisputeResolutionPolicy.html|changes in GREEN]].  Discussions on policy group, cast your vote when content.

  .2.5 '''Top Five''' added by YourName ''- Comment: Replace "Top" by Title of Top and add your Name''
   . Additional Inputs ''- Comment: Replace "Additional Inputs"by Description of Top, Description of Reason-Why/Purpose, Additional Comments, Additional Documents, Additional Links, if useful for other Arbitration Team Members to prepare for Arbitration Team Meeting.'' 

  . et cetera

 . 3 '''Question Time''' - Important Note: '''Questions from CAcert.org Community Members can be added until beginning of Arbitration Team Meeting! As well questions can be asked at "Question Time", without added Question here'''

  . 3.1 "Question One" added by YourName ''- Comment: Replace "Question One" by Your Question and add your Name''

  . et cetera

 . 4  '''Closing'''

  . 4.1  Confirm next Arbitration Team Meeting:
        * Thursday, 2013-02-21, 22 CET, 21 UTC ?

  . 4.2  Chair closes the Arbitration Team Meeting

  . 4.3  Preparation of Minutes
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== Minutes - Arbitration Team Meeting 2013-01-17 ==

=== 1 Preliminaries ===

==== 1.1 Opening ====

Present: Alex Robertson, Bernhard "Ted" Fröhlich, Uli Schröter, Martin Gummi, Ian Grigg

Meeting was chaired by Alex.

==== 1.2 Minutes taker ====

Minutes will be taken by Ted.

Last minutes were carried 4,0,0.

=== 2 Business ===

==== 2.1 DRP amendments ====

Postponed to next meeting since Philipp is not present.

==== 2.2 Possible precedent case ====

Alex will update AssuranceHandbook to reflect [[https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/a20120115.2|a20120115.2]].

Discussion about definition of a precedent. The results of the discussion have been included in [[Arbitrations/Training/Lesson12|Arbitrator Training Lesson 12]].

==== 2.3 New Arbteam meeting interval ====

Resolved that:

  '''Arbitration meeting by default shall be every 3rd Thursday of the month, 21:00 UTC (22:00 CET)'''

Carried 4/0/0

==== 2.4 Vote in Policy on Appeal fix-ups ====

Ian invites everyone to join the discussion and voting about the DRP Policy fix-ups on policy group.

=== 3 Question Time ===

There are no especially urgent cases, normal routine to pick up cases.

=== 4  Closing ===

==== 4.1  Confirm next Arbitration Team Meeting ====

Thursday 2013-02-21 at 21:00 UTC


=== Meeting Transcript ===

 * [[Arbitrations/Meetings/Transcripts/transcript-meeting-130117|Meeting Transcript 2013-01-17]]  ([[https://wiki.cacert.org/Arbitrations/Meetings/Transcripts/Transcripts-Page-Template|Transcripts-Page-Template]])

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