= Advisory Minutes 20071018 =

T,I,J.

== Board ==

 * contact with UK people, mario and greg S in contact with them
   * not talked about board membership
 * Should try again with Peter SA.
 * a poll has been sent out to PM, we'll see.
 * Christian, no action
 * Johanes VS did the organisation for event in Eindhoven, doing CAcert stuff, active in linux groups

== UK + Scandanavia ==

 * what sort of article for LinuxFormat?
   * translate the <kes> article to english and use that?
   * may need some tuning
 * contact sonance ('''iang''')
 * olav voip cAsterix ('''teus''' todo list)

== AGM ==

 * call has not gone to membership list as yet
   * mention on wiki
   * news blog entry
 * need seconders for nominations.
 * rules: yearly report: Robert has no time.  Report on period May - now. ('''iang''')
 * what about motions on NextAnnualGeneralMeeting?
   * R19,R20 Resignation -- committee to accept, obligation to hand over.
   * not happy with making the membership open
   * should rewrite the notes to suggest actual motions

== Policies ==

 * OA subpolicy for DE was posted today.  ('''iang''' to comment)
   * Systems Tuesday - Friday next week.
   * wait until Saturday ('''Teus''') then ping the others to get them to vote
   * lots of discussion about small companies
   * 2 dozen types, some in register, some not.
   * AO should maintain a list
 * CAcert Community Agreement
   * new name now agreed (Philipp, Teus, Jens)
   * there was a name from old:  "CAcert service agreement" ?  but the document can't be found.
 * NDA clause -- restart the question on the policy group ('''teus, iang''')
 * transfer of rights: suggest that we use what the FSF has done in this area, as they've likely covered it far better than we have or can, and we can't improve on their work. ('''iang''' to drag out clause from FSFE/dox and post on policy)
 * assurance testing:
   * CAcert testing system is down, evaldo's provider was dead.  Now back again, 2 days again.
   * Philipp's decision was to incorporate the software, but this requires review of software which has stalled the entire programme.
   * need to address this after systems as matter of urgency.
   * Management Subcommittee to look on the location and configuration of the software for the testing systems.
 * promulgation of NRP-DAL deferred until after current crisis.

== Business ==

 * Teus has a prototype flashlight / USB cert stick
 * defer rest to next week
   * PR into the USA, can Greg S look at that?
   * marketing, statistics? ==> sustainability
   * http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/SelfSustainabilityIdeas started
   * looking at income/fees and volunteer donations when certs are picked up
   * organisational donations / biz model
   * getting too deep, let's pick it up with Greg S.
   * PR is an issue, press releases are not coming out, not being reviewed.
   * the Oophaga PR will be a crucial test.
   * Johan is working with Philip to redesign web page, logo, advert, partner logos changes.

== Assurance ==

 * Super assurer request in Arizona, Tucson (?) / Phoenix
   * got in contact with other thwarte "notaries" in
 * searching on "xing":  found a user who is also working at Verisign.
   * What to do about that, is there a problem?
   * Answer: no real problem as this will happen,
   * but we would like to hear what the effect of the CAcert Community Agreement has on this user.  ('''Jens''' to ask.)

== Dispute Resolution ==

 * Case manager manual sent to policy
 * ping to Guillaume?  Philipp?

== Systems Administration ==

 * 1/4 rack in UPC datacenter in V. run by MK.
 * email servers to move to NL, decision of M-SC.
 * 2 m/c c+s to stay for now in V. 
   * need purchase approval from Rob (Greg ok, awaiting on Evaldo)
 * undecided whether m/c move afterwards to NL or stay in V as backups.
 * discussion about email system access for DB.
   * Teus decided to go ahead, Jens concurred.  
 * firm statement from Evaldo, Mario, Sebastian that they would help.
   * Jens to chase up Sebastian at Systems.
 * Teus to send email to board on overall proposal as approval needed
 * M-SC wants Iang to check the ISP situation.
 * defer other points to next week

== Misc ==
 
 * general decision to publish each minutes on wiki by next meeting.
 * Next physical Advisory meeting:
   * pencil weekend 7th December.
   * Jens place?
   * can go through Dusseldorp
   * Frankfurt Hahn / Ryan Air.
   * Karlsruhe / Ryan Air.

== END ==